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Old 10-15-2013, 08:25 PM   #1
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Big Scare last Weekend

Driving south on I-205 in Portland,Oregon we saw a 3 car wreck explode in front of a big truck ahead of us. Car parts were flying everywhere. Our tow vehicle was the correct size to stop our trailer and avoid hitting anything. A word to the wise do not under match your tow rig to the trailer weight for towing. Can your tow rig stop the trailer if you were traveling the speed limit? I have read so many posts about towing on this forum, I wanted to share this with you.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:14 PM   #2
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That is why I have trailer brakes.
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:58 PM   #3
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Glad to hear you are ok as is your trailer. None of us ever think it can happen to us....
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That is why I have trailer brakes.
My first thought too, Dave.

Glad to hear everything is fine with you and your vehicles, Chuck.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:54 PM   #5
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A big discussion on another RV forum today about the "size" of the TV.

Compare the stopping distance of a 2005 Dodge Ram 1500 and our mid size sport sedan (our TV of choice).

Dodge Ram 1500 60MPH to 0..... 151'

2003 Infiniti G35 sedan 60MPH to 0.... 114'
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:19 PM   #6
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A big discussion on another RV forum today about the "size" of the TV.

Compare the stopping distance of a 2005 Dodge Ram 1500 and our mid size sport sedan (our TV of choice).

Dodge Ram 1500 60MPH to 0..... 151'

2003 Infiniti G35 sedan 60MPH to 0.... 114'
Who did the testing? where those numbers with a trailer attached?
Do you have a link? would like to see the number of makes.
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Tundra 151' Toyota Tundra or Dodge Ram 1500? - Yahoo! Answers

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Old 10-17-2013, 09:52 PM   #8
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We had a big scare TODAY driving north on HW 1 from Big Sur, California. The road is curvy with a single lane on each side, with a double-yellow line (no passing) because of blind curves. About five cars were oncoming when a red car pulled out to pass the others narrowly missing us head-on! Thanks to smart thinking and quick but steady reaction from my DH we, and everyone else, missed a head-on collision and it's aftermath! You never know what the other guy will do. Please, everyone drive with patience, follow the law and be safe!
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Basically the above links provide what are the manufactures specs in regards to stopping distance when not towing. No references to stopping distance when towing. Only thing it does confirming is the lighter car when not towing anything is likely to stop faster than a heavier car when not towing. No surprise there.

Would be more interested in seeing the stopping numbers & how the stopping distance change with a trailer of the same size attached to each of those tugs.
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Using 60-0 distances/times of unloaded vehicles to gauge the quality of a TV is not a good way to argue tow vehicle safety.

I can see how having too large a TV doesn't help. Stopping the large mass of the TV can prove to be part of the problem. However, a light TV is not the best solution either because the trailer can take over control in an emergency stop. The bigger risk with using vehicles not necessarily designed for towing is that their brakes, wheelbase and suspension are not optimized for it.

Street pads on most cars (even sport sedans) are designed for cold quiet dust-free stopping. Anyone that has taken their sport sedan to the track knows all to well how poorly street pads hold up to repeated abuse...the same abuse you could apply to them with repeatedly stopping a heavy load. Truck braking systems are thoroughly tested with their rated tow weights to ensure they won't fade or fail. They may compromise stopping power for heat resistance resulting in longer, but consistent stopping distances.

I'm sure the G35 is fine for towing, but I would never come to the conclusion that it is safer than towing with a fullsize pickup just because it can stop 30ft sooner with one adult in the driver's seat and nothing in tow.
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I have WAY more confidence in my Honda Pilot than I do with my Ford F250, in doing an emergency stop towing the trailer. Of course, I ensure my brakes are always set up properly in the trailer. I know many do not like the feel of the trailer pulling back on the tow, and back then off to less than what is recommended in the controller setup.

Basically, the trailer brakes should pretty much be doing all the braking for the trailer itself.
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A big discussion on another RV forum today about the "size" of the TV. Compare the stopping distance of a 2005 Dodge Ram 1500 and our mid size sport sedan (our TV of choice). Dodge Ram 1500 60MPH to 0..... 151' 2003 Infiniti G35 sedan 60MPH to 0.... 114'
Ok. So put a 4,000 pound trailer behind them on a nice long downhill, and see what happens. Next, unplug the trailer so it's brakes don't work, and see what happens. My subaru will stop faster than my pickup all day long. Everything changes with a trailer behind it. Even if it could stop as fast, you would probably be pointed the wrong way, assuming you were even still on the road.

I've had the brakes fail on a 2500 pound trailer behind a half ton pickup in an emergency situation. I wouldn't be alive if it was with a car rated for that weight.
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I've had the brakes fail on a 2500 pound trailer behind a half ton pickup in an emergency situation. I wouldn't be alive if it was with a car rated for that weight.
What caused the brakes to fail? I have never had this happen with many thousands of miles of towing. The only time the brakes did not work was when some idiot (oh yeah, that was me), forgot to connect to the tow.

Properly maintained brakes on the trailer for me is just as important as on the tow vehicle. I am not fussy with lots of components on my vehicles, but anything that affects driving performance, I definitely am. Part of this comes from towing with big trucks and trailers, where often the trailer outweighs the truck by many times.
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Numerous braking tests with trailers in tow have already been done comparing various types of vehicles in all kinds of situations. Based on those tests we bought the TV we have and enjoyed the towing experience very much.

For anyone who really wants the optimal braking experience have a set of these Hawk brake pads installed. On our vehicle it made the suburb braking even better....

Hawk Performance HPS Performance Street Brake Pads | Hawk HPS Street Pads

What prompted my posts here was the fact I parked beside a Dodge RAM 1500 the other day. I noticed how dinky the front brake rotors were on the pickup. They were no larger than the ones on our mid sized car. Couldn't believe it.
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