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Old 01-05-2015, 05:30 AM   #29
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What is the problem towing using cruse control?
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Old 01-05-2015, 06:25 AM   #30
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I believe most transmission manufacturers do not recommend towing with cruise is that the extra load will cause frequent shifting, even up a slight incline and is frowned upon particularly downhill, it becomes dangerous. Another safety factor, you are towing the weight of another vehicle and you feet are nowhere bear the brakes nor gas pedal while cruise engaged. When towing in the tow mode you will have engine braking available as well as cooler transmission temperatures. That said, if you engage cruise control while in tow mode, you eliminate the engine braking capability. Your owners manual states to use D3 when towing and engaging cruise control prevents engine braking which you do want while towing a trailer. In summary, it is more of a safety factor. In addition the Toyota manual states not to tow over 45 mph, at any time. So there are several reasons.....
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Old 01-05-2015, 07:12 AM   #31
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I would never travel without a spare. Would carry two if traveling on a long long trip. Better to be safe than sorry.
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:59 AM   #33
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I believe most transmission manufacturers do not recommend towing with cruise is that the extra load will cause frequent shifting, even up a slight incline and is frowned upon particularly downhill, it becomes dangerous. Another safety factor, you are towing the weight of another vehicle and you feet are nowhere bear the brakes nor gas pedal while cruise engaged. When towing in the tow mode you will have engine braking available as well as cooler transmission temperatures. That said, if you engage cruise control while in tow mode, you eliminate the engine braking capability. Your owners manual states to use D3 when towing and engaging cruise control prevents engine braking which you do want while towing a trailer. In summary, it is more of a safety factor. In addition the Toyota manual states not to tow over 45 mph, at any time. So there are several reasons.....
Some good points there, but....
Just where do you put your feet while using cruise control??

Engine braking works anytime you lift, the cruise control lifts any time the speed exceeds the setting, ergo... engine braking works when the cruise control is on. A simple touch of the brake or clutch will disengage the cruise control instantly and there is an off button on the wheel (if your foot or hand is close enough to reach it)
On every car/truck I have owned, you can run cruise control in any gear as long as the speed is at or above 27mph.
In summary, cruise control mitigates fatigue and allows for better awareness of traffic, more of a safety factor.

Of course cruise control should only be used when it helps the driver to feel more in control, relaxed, and aware of his surroundings!
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Old 01-05-2015, 03:13 PM   #34
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I checked the existing original tire - it was 3 yrs 7 months old. I'm assuming the blown one was the same vintage. Noticed too the tread was substantially worn off both edges. I've never run the tires under inflated and do the back-of-the-hand temperature check every time I stop. Never felt anything but warm.

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Both were made in hard to pronounce Chinese factories.

I'm going to get another matching tire from Walmart tomorrow. Probably at this point I'll go through the winter on the two new bias ply tires then see if I can figure out something better next summer at home.

My tentative final solution will be to find 5 lug 5" bolt circle hubs that fit my existing axle so I can use the car spare on the trailer, then get 15 or 16" wheels and mount Light truck tires with the same approximate OD (30.6") as the car tires. I believe I can raise the weight carrying capacity of the tires by around 50% and remove the 65mph speed limit too.

Don't know if this will turn out to be doable at a reasonable cost but I really want to make the tires a lot safer and still don't want to carry a trailer spare.

Going to 30" ID tires will raise the trailer 2" - a good thing as I have already scraped a hole in the grey water tank backing over a low curb. New fenders will surely be needed but that doesn't sound too difficult


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Old 01-05-2015, 03:18 PM   #35
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Denny,

The only thing I can add is on steel belted tires you should not use a inside patch unless it has a nipple coming through the hole to the outside. Water can migrate through the outside hole into the belts and rust them causing failure. That should not matter on fabric belted tires. I do carry a spare but that is a personal decision.
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Old 01-05-2015, 03:26 PM   #36
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My LIL Snoozy probably has Chinese tires. I planned on changing them at 6 years but now maybe 3. I wonder if you can even buy small trailer tires that are US made.
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The only thing I can add is on steel belted tires you should not use a inside patch unless it has a nipple coming through the hole to the outside. Water can migrate through the outside hole into the belts and rust them causing failure. That should not matter on fabric belted tires. I do carry a spare but that is a personal decision.
Exactly the reason we were not allowed to use those "rope type" plugs in truck tires, water infiltration. Of course truck tires generally get recapped a few times so companies want to extend the life as long as possible. We would drill out the puncture with a special tool, glue in a rubber plug, rough up the inside of the tire and apply a patch and then a sealer on that.
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My previous trailer came with Trail America bias ply tires. After about 3 years they (both) started to delaminate. One section of tread was at least 1/2" higher than another. This happened within a few hundred miles. As far as I'm concerned we dodged a bullet. An internet search revealed little other than they were from China. I replaced them with a name brand radial ST tire (Carlisle). Buy good tires. It's money well spent. Raz
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Old 01-05-2015, 06:08 PM   #39
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If you look waaaay back in post #4, I posted a link to lots of posts about Trail America tires coming apart.


And, there was an article a few years back about Chinese tires being made with excessive amounts of recycled rubber, resulting in tread delaminatin.


If I was to buy Chinese tires I would first be sure that the brand name on it had some representation in the USofA and it wasn't some sort of house brand tire.
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Denny I have the Trail America radial tires on my Snoozy I looked at the fenders and they can be raised about 2 in and no problems That might be enough for your Jeep spare?
My spare on my Toyota Sequoia is a 6 lug big enough for a 30 ft 5th wheel that had a flat and we used the Sequoia spare that helped my friend to a tire repair station that was closed on a 4th of July weekend. he bought a spare that fits his 5th wheel and boat trailer monday Am. Hopefully see you this week Jim
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Old 01-05-2015, 08:07 PM   #41
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I've been told to replace tires on boat and RV trailers about every 3-4 years down here in sunny hot humid Florida . My Snoozy is a 2013 and Boat trailer is an 2009 with now new tires .
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Have you checked the speed rating of those tires? Many trailer tires are rated for 60 mph-
sometimes I see campers and other trailers zipping past on the freeway, only to see that same vehicle pulled over later with a flat. They are not the same as car tires- they heat up at 65 mph...
That being said, you have already learned that patch kits and fix-a-flat don't work when your whole sidewall is gone...

Good grief, not this again...trailer tires are not rated FOR 65 mph, they're rated AT 65 mph, big difference. Contact the manufacturer to see what speed they're rated FOR. Almost all are rated for at least 75, many to 85, following proper guidelines.


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