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11-04-2010, 05:13 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Kip
Trailer: 2003 Casita 17' SD Deluxe, Towed by '09 Honda Ridgeline.
Georgia
Posts: 611
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Brake Controllers
Been looking at different types of brake controllers. And it gets somewhat confusing.
Some don't give much info.
Some say they are "Time Delayed".
Some say they are "proportional".
Some say "electric over hydraulic".
HUH?
What type, brand and model have ya'll found to work best for the EGGS.
Thanks,
Kip
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11-04-2010, 05:30 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1982 Fiber Stream and 2001 Casita Spirit Deluxe (I'm down to 2!)
Posts: 1,989
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Tekonsha Prodigy.
I have yet to see anyone not recommend it?
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11-04-2010, 05:38 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 13 ft 2010 ('Ladybug') / 2003 Subaru Forester
Posts: 387
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kip in Ga.
Been looking at different types of brake controllers. And it gets somewhat confusing.
Some don't give much info.
Some say they are "Time Delayed".
Some say they are "proportional".
Some say "electric over hydraulic".
HUH?
What type, brand and model have ya'll found to work best for the EGGS.
Thanks,
Kip
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Kip:
You might want to start here:
Trailer Brake Controller Information | etrailer.com
It answers questions about proportional versus time delay.
We have a Prodigy Tekonsha brake controller for the electric brakes on our trailer and are happy with it. It is proportional type. I'm sure others will give you their choice. See Tekonsha Website - Electric Trailer Brake Controllers and Trailer Breakaway Brake Systems
Brian
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2010 Escape 13 "Ladybug"|2003 Subaru Forester|2012 Toyota Highlander
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11-04-2010, 08:11 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19 (was 2005 16 ft Scamp Side Dinette and 2005 Fleetwood (Coleman) Taos pop-up)
Posts: 1,227
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Kip,
As do most on the forum, I have a Tekonsha Prodigy proportional controller. The faster I need to decelerate, the more pressure is applied to the trailer brakes by the controller.
John
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11-04-2010, 08:38 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Borden and Carole
Trailer: 1978 Earlton Ontario boler
Ontario
Posts: 1,506
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Our car is using a Voyager brake unit 9030 with standard drum electric brakes on trailer. The unit is a proportional braking system the trailer dealer recommended it.
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11-04-2010, 08:50 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Gene
Trailer: Looking
Texas
Posts: 1
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check this controller out A bit on the high side but worth considering. DirecLink
I have not tried one
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11-04-2010, 09:29 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jesse
Trailer: 1984 Scamp 13'
Maryland
Posts: 815
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Don't worry about "electric over hydraulic," that is a type of braking system foundon some large trailers, but is never used in eggs.
Time delay brake controllers are cheap. That's about the only benefit to them. Some of them are a tad smaller, too. They are somewhat digital... meaning that the brakes are either ON or OFF.
Proportional brake controllers are the higher quality option. They brake the trailer in proportion to the amount of braking you apply to the tow vehicle... basically, they do what you would assume all trailer braking systems do (but many don't).
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11-04-2010, 10:06 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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The Prodigy Tekonsha gets my vote. Would buy again in a flash.
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11-05-2010, 12:09 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: U-Haul VT16
Posts: 987
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mcbrew
Don't worry about "electric over hydraulic," that is a type of braking system foundon some large trailers, but is never used in eggs...
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Uhaul 16s and little T@B trailers have hydraulic braking systems. You can get hydraulic couplers with master cylinders for not much more than the cost of a nice electronic proportional controller. You'd need hubs, too but you can get all that stuff at Northern Trailer, even with disc brakes! I wouldn't suggest somebody retrofit an electrical system, but the option is out there.
Regards,
Matt
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11-05-2010, 12:42 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp
Posts: 7,056
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Quote:
Originally Posted by genexgene
check this controller out A bit on the high side but worth considering. DirecLink
I have not tried one
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Interesting system, but boy oh boy is it pricey. $295.00
Prodigy with a bit of shopping is less than $100.00.
I think that Prodigy by Tekonsha is probably the most common controller. Almost any will work with our small trailers. I prefer the proportional system, but some will sear by the timed system. I want my trailer brakes to come on quickly when I apply the tow brakes. I want there to be enough braking to keep the trailer behind me, and not much that it's trying to stop the tow. I think the prodigy does all that.
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Byron & Anne enjoying the everyday Saturday thing.
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11-05-2010, 02:57 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
Posts: 5,137
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I use the Tekonsha P3.
More features than we need for our eggs.
Consider what else you might tow in the future in your purchase decisions today.
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11-05-2010, 05:50 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 16 ft Casita Spirit Deluxe
Posts: 1,043
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Tekonsha Prodigy gets my vote too
Joe
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11-05-2010, 09:12 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jesse
Trailer: 1984 Scamp 13'
Maryland
Posts: 815
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt in SV
Uhaul 16s and little T@B trailers have hydraulic braking systems. You can get hydraulic couplers with master cylinders for not much more than the cost of a nice electronic proportional controller. You'd need hubs, too but you can get all that stuff at Northern Trailer, even with disc brakes! I wouldn't suggest somebody retrofit an electrical system, but the option is out there.
Regards,
Matt
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Right, but those systems are called 'surge brakes' and are a lot different than electric over hydraulic systems.
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11-05-2010, 10:34 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: U-Haul VT16
Posts: 987
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mcbrew
Right, but those systems are called 'surge brakes' and are a lot different than electric over hydraulic systems.
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I didn't understand that electric-over-hydraulic was a technology. I thought it was Electric vs. Hydraulic
Surge brakes actuators can be hydraulic. Brian B-P pointed out in a PM that the T@B Surge brakes were cable operated, but isn't the U-Haul mechanism hydraulic? That's the master cylinder reservoir on top just in front of the jack tower, right? Little filler cap on top and plumbing coming out the back? This isn't my trailer, but those things are beasts!
Regards,
Matt
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11-06-2010, 12:49 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
Posts: 5,137
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This is from a boat trailer manufacturer:
" Trailer brakes can enhance the towing capabilities of smaller tow vehicles by giving them an ability to stop more easily and safely, particularly in a panic situation. A trailer equipped with hydraulic surge or electric over hydraulic brakes not only improves safety, it also makes towing less stressful.
ShoreLand’r has been installing hydraulic surge brakes as standard equipment on all of its trailers rated at 3,000 lbs. or higher since 2000. Electric over hydraulic brakes are standard on the company’s trailers with carrying capacities over 9,500 pounds. "
Full article is here:
http://www.shorelander.com/pages/med...n%20Towing.pdf
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11-06-2010, 12:56 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
Posts: 5,137
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And an interesting article discussing the three; electric, surge and electric over hydraulic:
Compact Equipment Talking Shop
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11-06-2010, 03:36 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Cyndi
Trailer: 2010 Scamp 5th Wheel/2019 Toyota Tundra
Iowa
Posts: 1,105
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Next Springs project: Putting the awning "back on" and getting the truck and trailer communicating.
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11-07-2010, 06:22 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Kip
Trailer: 2003 Casita 17' SD Deluxe, Towed by '09 Honda Ridgeline.
Georgia
Posts: 611
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Good replies. Thank you! Looks like Prodigy would be a better choice. Now to decide on the P2 or the P3, Or maybe the....!
Kip
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