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Old 09-08-2013, 05:44 PM   #15
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I just went out to look at the brand Jack.
It's made in the USA by TIEDOWN Manufacturing.

I hadn't really paid that much attention but it looks like you're right.
A castle nut with locking pin. Looks like very easy disassembly.

http://www.tiedown.com/boemm.html

The Eliminator Torsion Axle is an industry first with its removable spindle. Gone are the days of sitting by the side of the road when the spindle/axle is damaged due to extreme bearing failure or due to an accident.

Torsion axles allow independent movement of each wheel, reducing shock transfer and dangerous trailer sway.
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:51 PM   #16
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I don't know if you can see the outer end or not.
This is the only picture I have after I lost one of the rubber caps.

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Old 09-08-2013, 06:16 PM   #17
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Well, I'm probably the one who has posted the most about my preference for electric brakes vs surge brakes. Snoozy comes with surge brakes, standard equipment. But when I ordered my Lil Hauley (empty Snoozy shell) for cargo, I told Alan I had to have electric brakes on it. They ordered in a different axle with electric brakes, and wired it up with a 7 pin harness to plug into my tug. So they are able to do it, if you specify it.

Electric brakes can be applied without hitting your tow vehicle's brakes, which would be a good safety feature IF you ever had the trailer start to sway uncontrollably (not too likely if you keep a decent tongue weight on it). Surge brakes work ok, but for my cargo hauling needs the Hauley changes weight by over 1500 lbs from loaded to unloaded status, so I wanted the ability to adjust my trailer brakes from inside the cab-- something one could not do with surge brakes.
Do you mind sharing what that upgrade cost? Did they credit the surge brakes back and then charge for upgrade?
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Old 09-08-2013, 06:19 PM   #18
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In every day situations there may not be much difference between Surge and Electric brakes however, I want the ability to activate the trailer's brakes independently of the tow vehicle's brakes, a relatively easy way to halt sway in an emergency.

Additionally the ability to add a break away switch is relatively easy with electric brakes. Is this ability available on the Lil Snoozy's surge brakes?
Yes break a way switches are done with a cable on surge brakes are are required by law in most states.
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Here's the brake actuator.....

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Old 09-08-2013, 09:41 PM   #20
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Do you mind sharing what that upgrade cost? Did they credit the surge brakes back and then charge for upgrade?
No idea, sorry. I asked for a price quote for an empty trailer with electric brakes and 2 small windows and 2 interior lights. I have no breakdown of the pricing.
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The torsion arm housing on my old Henschen doesn't look like that. Is it an arrangement allowing painless spindle replacement?
Carl provided the manufacturer (Tiedown) and confirmed that the spindle is removable for repair. The rest of the hardware (other end of the spindle, bearings, hub) is completely conventional. They're not the only company to use removable spindles, but I don't know of any other specific brands of independent rubber-sprung designs built this way.
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......... They're not the only company to use removable spindles, but I don't know of any other specific brands of independent rubber-sprung designs built this way.
Probably not relevant to the OP, but the UHauls had / have a bolt on spindle / integrated bearing unit. I converted mine to just a bolt on spindle so that I could add off the shelf brake parts.
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Probably not relevant to the OP, but the UHauls had / have a bolt on spindle / integrated bearing unit.
Excellent point. Although I was thinking of bare spindles for conventional bearings, the integrated spindle/bearings/hub units are bolt-on and offer a comparable serviceability advantage. Although U-Haul is the only manufacturer I can think of to use these in an independent rubber suspension on a travel trailer, similar configurations are used on other trailers and on tow dollies.
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........... similar configurations are used on other trailers and on tow dollies.
Yes, in fact some of them use the exact same hub.
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I would like to hear from LiL Snoozy owners on this one, I am looking at a LS and the brakes are an area I would like to hear about. Have any of you actual OWNERS who have towed your LS in a mountain area had any experience with the surge brakes? How did they handle etc. I am going to see what it would cost to order one with electric brakes if the opinions here would support it.

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I would like to hear from LiL Snoozy owners on this one, I am looking at a LS and the brakes are an area I would like to hear about. Have any of you actual OWNERS who have towed your LS in a mountain area had any experience with the surge brakes? How did they handle etc. I am going to see what it would cost to order one with electric brakes if the opinions here would support it.

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You might get more information on towing with surge brakes from a boating forum, as surge brakes are widely used on boat trailers due to the wheel dunking when unloading.
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You might get more information on towing with surge brakes from a boating forum, as surge brakes are widely used on boat trailers due to the wheel dunking when unloading.
Yea I have towed many boats with surge brakes just never in a mountain pass. In my regular travels with a 28 foot cabin boat the surges worked fine but it was always flat.
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Yea I have towed many boats with surge brakes just never in a mountain pass. In my regular travels with a 28 foot cabin boat the surges worked fine but it was always flat.
Right, but other boaters may have mountain driving experience with surge brakes. For fiberglass campers, surge brakes are rare.
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