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Old 07-29-2016, 01:32 PM   #15
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So when did Goodyear Marathon tires start having problems? Our 2013 Casita has them, originals, and they look fine. Don't know how many miles the PO put on them, but the tread and sidewalls look fine.
About 4-5 years ago (perhaps more) people starting reporting an alarming number of failures.

Your tires may look fine but from personal experience would not run a tire of more than 4 years of age, no matter how good it looked on the outside or what brand of tire was on the trailer.
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There is much nonsense posted on the interweb.
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There is much nonsense posted on the interweb.
Glenn, which claims in this thread, if any, are you suggesting are "nonsense"?

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Old 07-29-2016, 04:24 PM   #18
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All the stuff about Goodyear Marathon and also how you should go with light truck tires, or passenger tires.
Marathons were the most popular tire so, of course, there were more blowouts. Mostly because people don't check and use the correct the tire pressure.
Escapes used Marathon tires for years with no concern. Goodyear raised the price considerably so Escape switched to Carlisle.
As for light truck tires, they are designed for use on light trucks.
ST ( special trailer ) tires are designed for use on trailers. If one thinks they know better than the tire manufacturer's R&D departments, I suggest using marshmallows.
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Glenn,

The only possible advantage to ST tires is their supposed ability to sit in the sun or be stationary for longer than an LT tire.

It's definitely true that a much higher percentage of ST tires fail than LT tires. Marathons have been the worst and the stories are all over most trailer sites. You can chose not to believe it if you wish.

It's true that LT tires are designed for trucks and that's why they are so good for trailers. Heavy duty with good traction.

ST tires are only rated 65 MPH, which seems fine, but a lot of guys drive faster that that.

Side sway with the Marathons I had was terrible. I ditched them and went with bias ply tires and solved the problem.

LT tires have a higher DOT standard than trailer tires and must be able to carry their full rated load at speed. The idea that they sway more just isn't true. My Ram, for instance has about 2,500-3,000 lbs per tire on the front and it has no problems with excessive wear or instability on winding roads. I switched my toy hauler to LT tires and significantly increased it's stiffness over the stock Carlisle ST tires.

And get this: Oliver travel trailers come stock with LT tires. Hmmmm. Good call.

LT tires are more readily available and come in more tread designs too. You can get a siped AT design that will perform better braking and cornering in rain, a knobby that will work better in the desert than a ribbed ST. And you can get LT tires that were made in the US.

For many of us it's time to move on to the best we can get, but thanks for the recommendation to use Marshmallows. No thanks, I take my tires seriously.
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Just proves my point. You got your information from the interweb.
No technical studies, just anecdotes.
To counter, my Marathon's were just fine for seven years. Replaced them with Carlisle when I figured they were aged enough.
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I have some long-haul trucker friends; they recommended Hercules brand. Did a diligent web search and found few complaints. Started looking at tires on semi-trailers and saw a lot of them. About the same cost as Maxxis and more widely available.

Didn't have any problems; figured that advice from high-milers was better than blogs.
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OK, so this is all anecdotal. Anyone have stats on failure rates?

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A simple search on Marathon tires or Goodyear ST failures, etc, reveals a lot of info.

Goodyear Replaced Tires in 'Silent Recall,' Critics Allege - Page 2 - latimes

There is way too much to post here and to say it's all fake is ridiculous. Further, I don't know why anyone without a vested interest would go out of their way to defend them. If there is a serious question, and many claims, steer clear.
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Well, let's see. That article was written in 2000 and describes Light Truck tires that may or may not have had problems due to manufacture.
It's an article reporting what critics have to say and there is rebuttal from Goodyear.

I think you recommend LT tires?
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Well, that article is 16 years old. And most of the article was about Goodyear light-truck tires.

I guess the question is: Are there reliable statistics on Marathon failures over the last few years, compared to comparable tires from other manufacturers? Maybe from the NHTSA?

I had a low-mileage truck tire on the right front disintegrate at 70 mph on the Mass Pike back in 2010. It was quite an adventure. Turns out it was 7 years old, and its mate had spidery sidewall cracks. They might have been Goodyears, but I can't generalize based on that experience. Taught me to look more closely at my tires, though.

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Let's please keep the personal attacks out of the thread. It is fine to state your opinion, then move on. A site search will find numerous threads discussion this same topic, with just about everything already covered many times over.

Personally, I would use nothing but tires designed for their intended use, that being ST for trailers. I own various construction trailers as well as my travel trailer, and all run on ST radials, kept inflated to the maximum allowed. I have always had good performance from them. The have firm sidewalls that resist lateral movement, something that passenger tires do not do as well with.

Goodyear did have problems with their Marathons a long ways back, something like 15 or more years, but this has since been rectified. The owner of the tire shop I do business with says they are a great tire, as is Carlisle. They have seen next to no failures of either over the past bunch of years. Oh yeah, and he too emphatically stresses that trailers should use the ST tires designed for them, and also recommends inflating to maximum pressure.
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Thank you Mr Lynn.
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And we should not forgot that tires are not only one of the most critical components on a trailer, but also probably the most often neglected.

Proper care and feeding of your tires will go quite a bit further in preventing problems than choosing one major manufacturer over another - almost every time.

1. Proper inflation. Check before every departure. Consider a TPMS but don't rely only on it.
2. Age. 4-6 years max. On the shorter end of the age range if exposed to the sun a lot. Cover when possible to retard UV degradation.
3. Frequent visual inspection, including a quick look at most every stop when on the road. Detailed visual inspection at start of the season. Also look at the valve for cracking.

You can also remove the wheels and tires when the trailer will be unused for an extended time, and store them indoors. Or lighten the load on them (and the axle) using jack stands; park on boards and move the trailer once in a while to prevent flat spots.

Maybe there are additional tips but I think those are the main ones that will help your tires preform safely.
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