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Old 06-25-2013, 07:35 PM   #29
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In the USA it's rather prominent on the pump 10% ethanol.
I don't know about relative prominence, but it's normally clearly indicated on the pump here, too. Typically it is something like "may contain up to 10% ethanol".
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The big deal is that is shown being towed by a Pontiac Solstice, which is not based on a small commercial vehicle chassis like your Kia, and is substantially shorter in wheelbase.

Is the Trillium over 1683 pounds empty and dry, like the Alto? I don't think it's 17 feet long, like Alto.
Which Solstice???

I was talking about Norm's O.P....tug involved is a 4-cyl diesel. Guess I should've quoted it before...better late than never, right?

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Two Altos came into the park. The Alto is a fairly large and tall teardrop shaped trailer. The newer one did not have the pop up feature and was more than walk around tall.

The newer rig was towed by a new honda Jetta sedan with the 4 cylinder TDI diesel. He said it towed beautifully snd seemed to get excellent mileage, guessing two thirds of normal highway mileage.

He had a w/d hitch fom Can-Am RV so I took a look. It was welded near the bumber and had a fair sized steel tube running from the back of the hitch towards the front of the car somewhere between 4 or 5 feet in length. I suspect thid provided stiffness for the w/d system. The whole thing looked nicely done
A four cylinder TDI diesel ought to be able to tow that trailer no problem....In my opinion, the only thing worth marveling about in THAT combination is that the guy thought he needed a mucho-spendy "custom setup" to do it.

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I agree, the Jetta is not a big deal. The conversation had moved on to the small convertible, which is a different matter.
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:48 PM   #32
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A four cylinder TDI diesel ought to be able to tow that trailer no problem....In my opinion, the only thing worth marveling about in THAT combination is that the guy thought he needed a mucho-spendy "custom setup" to do it.
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Yup sure would have been far more entertaining to hear about what happens after a couple of years of someone towing a 2000lb plus trailer with a car thats only rated for a 1000lbs and has attachment points designed for a class I hitch & 1000lbs only.

Oh wait I am pretty sure we have already had a member here tell that story!

Edit to add: for those who havent been around long enough to recall the story the thread is called Jetta Towing Issues.... caution
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Oh wait I am pretty sure we have already had a member here tell that story!

Edit to add: for those who havent been around long enough to recall the story the thread is called Jetta Towing Issues.... caution


Barry's 2.0L gas powered Jetta is about as similar as my Kia is to the TDI diesel that's the subject of Norm's post. And mine.

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Barry's 2.0L gas powered Jetta is about as similar as my Kia is to the TDI diesel that's the subject of Norm's post. And mine.

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Yup well aware of that and your point? mine was the hitch point failure and nothing to marvel at as you suggest in the owner having put a "mucho-spendy "custom setup"" on it. Its very simple put needed! The Jetta in Norm's post still only has a class I hitch point and a 1000lb tow cap..... just as Barry's Jetta had,
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The big deal is that is shown being towed by a Pontiac Solstice, which is not based on a small commercial vehicle chassis like your Kia, and is substantially shorter in wheelbase.
Vehicles have improved for the better..

This 50 year old ad is interesting. The unibody 190 Mercedes has the same weight and wheel base as the Solstice. It's 1.9L engine has 106 HP. The Solstice has much more power and so much technology working for it.
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4 cylinder towing.

Towing a 16 foot trailer, 2400 lb with 200 lb tongue weight for 6 years averaging 7.5 months per year on the road and 22 mpg. Includes 3 loops of the USA, across Labrador, all over Newfoundland, crossed the Rockies multiple times, more than 50,000 tow miles, driving a nine year old 4 cylinder Honda CRV, 194,000 miles, same clutch, only failure a radiator fan in 9 years ($60).

Hitch mounting as solid as day one.

I know there is opposition but its all worked well, actually very well.
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All this about the hitches and tugs... let's hear more details about the Alto! What's the headroom like in the expandable one when the top is down, did you have a chance to see? Did the front hinge look like a potential leak point?
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All this about the hitches and tugs... let's hear more details about the Alto! What's the headroom like in the expandable one when the top is down, did you have a chance to see? Did the front hinge look like a potential leak point?
Mike you dont actually think the Alto was ever intended to be the focus of discussion on this thread do you?
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As an aside, it seems vehicle manufacturers have a lot more than small trailer towing to consider...note Jeep recalling a ton of Jeeps for a fire hazard. As some one suggested we are a small part of the equation and maybe unfortunately. I suspect small trailer towing and their drivers are safer than most.
Just to start another side channel for the thread to drift into, Jeep first told NHTSA to shove it and published NHTSA's own data regarding the incidence of fire due to the Jeep being rear ended. There were several other popular models with higher incidence, even some with the fuel tank behind the rear axle.

Here's Chrysler's side of the story:
http://www.chryslergroupllc.com/Inve...tePaperNew.pdf

A few days later they caved, probably figuring doing a voluntary recall was less expensive than fighting it out in court. The media never tells these kind of stories in sufficient detail to let the reader really know more than a few oversimplified bullet points.



BTW; affects 1993-1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee and 2002-2007 Jeep Liberty SUVs.

Interesting note to us trailer pullers: The "fix" is to install a trailer hitch! They believe the extra structure of the hitch absorbs enough crash energy to reduce the odds of the fuel tank being punctured.
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Mike you dont actually think the Alto was ever intended to be the focus of discussion on this thread do you?
Norm did title the thread "Can Am RV w/d on Jetta diesel sedan."

Mike, I do agree the Alto is an interesting trailer to talk about.
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Norm did title the thread "Can Am RV w/d on Jetta diesel sedan." .
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The two Altos were owned by brothers. The one towing with the Jetta was towing the newer version. It did not have the raisable roof and was at least as tall the one with the raisable roof.

It was a lot taller than my 6'1" height. The shower was at the high point to take advantage of the height

I liked it better than the older version, less windows but plenty. As well less to go wrong.

As to my addition of the CRV info, it was to counter earlier comments by to show the road less traveled can work and has worked.
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