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Old 08-29-2013, 04:44 PM   #15
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After reading your rebuild thread Jared, I now understand what everyone is
talking about the difference in Scamps system.......LOL
I can see Scamp is not a goose-neck or a fifth wheel.


BOB: "Otherwise we will have to tell all those truckers that they are actually pulling a 9th wheel trailer etc....."

As an ex-truck driver I was having the same thoughts............LOL
Only I was a eleventh-wheel trucker.
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Old 08-29-2013, 05:49 PM   #16
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After reading your rebuild thread Jared, I now understand what everyone is
talking about the difference in Scamps system.......LOL
I can see Scamp is not a goose-neck or a fifth wheel.


BOB: "Otherwise we will have to tell all those truckers that they are actually pulling a 9th wheel trailer etc....."

As an ex-truck driver I was having the same thoughts............LOL
Only I was a eleventh-wheel trucker.
But it is a 5er,just because that's what we call it.
Escape has an Escape 17,an Escape 19 soon to have an Escape 21. and an EScape 5.0 which I am sure doesn't mean 5FT!
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LOL.
If the trailer has a single axle, it's 3er from that vantage.
If the tow is a dually, it's a 6er from that vantage. LOL
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:01 PM   #18
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The hitch Scamp uses for their 5er, can either be a plus or a minus. Plus = typically no one can just hookup and tow it off! A true passive theft prevention system. Minus = if you break down on the road... finding a tow company to help can be a PITA.
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:12 PM   #19
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After reading your rebuild thread Jared, I now understand what everyone is
talking about the difference in Scamps system.......LOL
I can see Scamp is not a goose-neck or a fifth wheel.


BOB: "Otherwise we will have to tell all those truckers that they are actually pulling a 9th wheel trailer etc....."

As an ex-truck driver I was having the same thoughts............LOL
Only I was a eleventh-wheel trucker.
Thanks for the comments....

But I was wondering, exactly who is confused by the different names?
When someone sez 5th wheel RV to me I don't stop to think about correct terminology or how the trailer is actually connected to the TV. I, like most others just think about a trailer connected to something in the bed rather than the A$$ end of the TV.
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:13 PM   #20
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Thanks for the comments....

But I was wondering, exactly who is confused by the different names?
When someone sez 5th wheel RV to me I don't stop to think about correct terminology or how the trailer is actually connected to the TV. I, like most others just think about a trailer connected to something in the bed rather than the A$$ end of the TV.
I was, for starters. I thought I was buying a fifth wheel. Luckily the owner corrected me on that before I got it. Then I thought HE was the one that rigged it. Then I found out it was factory.

Nobody I know considers a fifth wheel to be "a trailer connected to something in the bed". It's a fifth wheel, or a gooseneck...or a scamp.

This is a fifth wheel:



Which means you need a hitch like this:



This is a gooseneck:



Which means you need a hitch like this (sorry, just took it out in the dark):



This is scamps goofy proprietary setup:



I don't have a picture of the hitch, since I told him to scrap it. He had a receiver hitch adapter for it that I used to get it home, and I didn't want to haul the scamp hitch home.

This is what you end up with when you have a fifth wheel and try to get a "fifth wheel" scamp:



If you can't look at the pictures and see how it's confusing...I guess I can't help.
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Old 08-30-2013, 12:58 PM   #21
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But I was wondering, exactly who is confused by the different names?
Almost every person who posts in this forum who is considering buying - or has already bought - a Scamp 19'.
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Old 08-30-2013, 01:04 PM   #22
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... if you break down on the road... finding a tow company to help can be a PITA.
It shouldn't be; towing ball-hitch trailers with tow trucks is routine. It's pretty common for wheel-lift tow trucks to have a provision to mount a ball on the lift. As long as they can mount a 2" ball, they should have no problem towing a Scamp 19 with the goofy OEM 2" high-mounted coupler. They do have to lift it well off the ground to be level (or at least high enough to clear the landing gear feet), but that shouldn't be a problem.

The problem comes when a Scamp 19 owner calls a towing company and says something about a fifth-wheel, because it isn't one.

Privately owned trucks, of course, are highly unlikely to have a suitable hitch. Getting a friend to rescue your Scamp 19 would indeed be a PITA.
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