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Old 05-10-2016, 08:28 PM   #15
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There are some very cool tools that make it easier, some cheap, some pricey. The best advice in this whole thread is borrow a utility trailer and try it out. If you end up "Egg" focused (we love it), then a BARE minimum is a mid-size SUV, but a pickup truck or full size (meaning a frame/axle instead of uni-body) SUV will make it a breeze to pull. Don't think you will save gas by going with a lighter vehicle. My Honda Pilot dropped from 20mpg to 10.5 pulling the trailer.
Hi bookernoe,

Yes, I need to practice. And I think that I need a stronger vehicle, like a truck, I guess?

Thanks, Margaret
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Old 05-10-2016, 08:30 PM   #16
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Sounds like you are using a weight distributing hitch (WDH). The drawbar on my regular weight carrying hitch weighs under ten pounds. Generally 16' and under does not require a WDH; 17' and over may or may not, depending on the trailer and vehicle. A WDH is heavier and takes a few more steps to hitch up. Used correctly, it does add stability to the towing set-up.

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Agree that having a small trailer is fun!

Yes, we have a WDH and the ball mount is adjustable. Of course, many use WDHs with small fiberglass trailers and no telling if this person will need one. If not, yes, that would be much less weight to have to manage. I didn't think to say that until later so thanks for pointing it out.
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Old 05-10-2016, 08:34 PM   #17
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Hi Cathi,

I looked for Escapes, and haven't found any so far, but I'll look again.

All this stuff is starting to sound a little scary, but I think the idea of renting a uhaul trailer is great!

Margaret
No, a truck is not needed by many. Depends upon the trailer.

You can see an Escape by calling or e-mailing Escape Trailer and they will tell you the ones in your area that owners will show you.
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Old 05-10-2016, 08:35 PM   #18
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Hi bookernoe,

Yes, I need to practice. And I think that I need a stronger vehicle, like a truck, I guess?

Thanks, Margaret
There are so many choices. A good pickup truck is hard to beat in a lot of ways if you don't need the extra seats. A Ford F150 would pull an egg camper as if it weren't there. It's very versatile for other tasks, though maybe a little less comfortable on longer drives. Tougher in parking lots. I love my Pilot, and it is doing a great job towing. I've been towing all my life though.
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Old 05-10-2016, 08:40 PM   #19
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Hi all,

I am completely new to towing. I've never towed anything before.

I am thinking of moving into an RV trailer temporarily, until I find a new house (I'm selling my house, and I also don't know exactly where I'm going to live--would like to live in drier climate).

Exactly how dangerous is towing? Does it take a lot of work, and do you need a lot of strength? How difficult is it to hitch and unhitch?

I would be towing either a camplite, or a light weight molded fiberglass trailer like Scamp, hopefully no bigger than 17'. I wouldn't mind smaller, but most of the companies I'm looking at right now that are in my region don't make smaller than 17'.

I wouldn't just stay in one location; I'd be traveling around.

I'm just wondering: Is it hard to connect the vehicle to the trailer? Where do you park if you're on the way somewhere, and you just need to go to the store, or, more importantly, the bathroom? The last question is the most important, really.

The fiberglass models I'm looking at don't come as truck campers.

Some examples of what I'm looking at include: Scamp, Casita, Eggcamper, Oliver, etc.

I'm looking at those particular models because of health reasons, mainly mold and chemicals.

I've looked at Camplite, but the new 2016 model makes a rubber roof, and that's not good if you are as highly sensitive to mold as I am.

Plus, I've heard that Camplite leaks.

What about backing up and making left or right turns?

How do I avoid fishtailing?

so back to my original question: Is it at all realistic for me to tow and travel around the country? Or should I just give up and buy a truck camper?

Thanks, Margaret
There are a number of good videos on youtube that will give you tips about how to tow. But you no doubt could also find yourself a local mentor right in your neighborhood if you put the word out.
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Old 05-10-2016, 08:43 PM   #20
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Watch for scammers

One note of caution on searching for these campers, particularly Casitas. Used ones are hard to find, but one will come to you eventually. Meanwhile, it is really incredible how many scam ads there are on Craigslist. In virtually every town there is someone posting them at unrealistic prices to try and catch the unaware. I eventually arrived at filtering out low prices to make it easier to find the real ones.
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One note of caution on searching for these campers, particularly Casitas. Used ones are hard to find, but one will come to you eventually. Meanwhile, it is really incredible how many scam ads there are on Craigslist. In virtually every town there is someone posting them at unrealistic prices to try and catch the unaware. I eventually arrived at filtering out low prices to make it easier to find the real ones.
Can't tell people enough not to send money for a trailer they have not seen. Some do and are lucky and some do and are not.
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Old 05-10-2016, 10:07 PM   #22
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I found my greatest peace in realizing the extraordinary resale value of these trailers. If you buy a good one (and most are) then you can get back out of it. That makes a low price little more than red flag to me when shopping. When I told searchtempest.com to filter out all below 7,000 my search got a lot easier. On related note, I searched high and low for a Casita Liberty Deluxe for about three months. Every time I saw one within travel distance, it was gone in hours. Then there was the 'desperate' guy in San Antonio who was asking 3000 below the market price. I just about took off to get it when THREE hit the market within 100 miles of me. Patience pays well when looking for a quality trailer. This forum, BTW, gave me the most quality leads, but ultimately it was a Craigslist buy that worked out.
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Old 05-10-2016, 10:26 PM   #23
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Hi all,

I am completely new to towing. I've never towed anything before.

I am thinking of moving into an RV trailer temporarily, until I find a new house (I'm selling my house, and I also don't know exactly where I'm going to live--would like to live in drier climate).

Exactly how dangerous is towing? Does it take a lot of work, and do you need a lot of strength? How difficult is it to hitch and unhitch?

I would be towing either a camplite, or a light weight molded fiberglass trailer like Scamp, hopefully no bigger than 17'. I wouldn't mind smaller, but most of the companies I'm looking at right now that are in my region don't make smaller than 17'.

I wouldn't just stay in one location; I'd be traveling around.

I'm just wondering: Is it hard to connect the vehicle to the trailer? Where do you park if you're on the way somewhere, and you just need to go to the store, or, more importantly, the bathroom? The last question is the most important, really.

The fiberglass models I'm looking at don't come as truck campers.

Some examples of what I'm looking at include: Scamp, Casita, Eggcamper, Oliver, etc.

I'm looking at those particular models because of health reasons, mainly mold and chemicals.

I've looked at Camplite, but the new 2016 model makes a rubber roof, and that's not good if you are as highly sensitive to mold as I am.

Plus, I've heard that Camplite leaks.

What about backing up and making left or right turns?

How do I avoid fishtailing?

so back to my original question: Is it at all realistic for me to tow and travel around the country? Or should I just give up and buy a truck camper?

Thanks, Margaret

Margaret my suggestion if you have the time is to read the daily posts here. You will learn a tremendous amount from these discussions. I typically read these posts with my iPhone Plus which has my email on it. When I see a post that is important about campers/mechanics/ travel spots, I save the thread in a spears folder for each category so that I can refer back for something I need or an interested in. You also need to see the campers in person, that way you will learn about the space you are most comfortable in, and you will learn to judge the quality of construction/finishing work.

One thought, you seem to want to 'try it out' while looking for your home. Most people here are very serious about what they are doing. It's an expensive 'try out', so put in the time and decide if you are serious and are looking for an adventure. It's not getting a mani/ pedi, out to lunch and buying some shoes. Best wishes!! Michael
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Hi Jon, Good response--a little intimidating, but helpful!!...
LOL… afraid I gave in to the temptation to add "just one more thing." Please don't be intimidated. You can do this. Best thing is what many have said: find some real (not virtual) people to guide you.

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...And I think that I need a stronger vehicle, like a truck, I guess?
Not necessarily a truck. You are considering a Parkliner. Loaded for travel it will likely weigh well under 3000 pounds, so a vehicle rated to tow 3500 pounds would be fine. That gives you plenty of options, including minivans and quite a few mid-sized crossover SUVs, as well as trucks.

One of the advantages of a smaller trailer is you have more choices.

17' is somewhat of a tipping point, since 17' trailers commonly weigh over 3000 pounds and have tongue weights at or above 350 pounds. It's also the point at which you may have to consider using a weight distributing hitch.
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A Ford F150 would pull an egg camper as if it weren't there. It's very versatile for other tasks, though maybe a little less comfortable on longer drives. Tougher in parking lots. I love my Pilot, and it is doing a great job.

I agree that the Pilot (or any midsize vehicle) would be easier to maneuver in a parking lot than an F150. But it's definitely not less comfortable on longer drives. My F150 ride is posh compared to my SUV, and is far MORE comfortable on longer drives. Quieter too. This is not your daddy's F150.



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Old 05-15-2016, 08:55 PM   #26
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Yes, we have a WDH and the ball mount is adjustable. Of course, many use WDHs with small fiberglass trailers and no telling if this person will need one. If not, yes, that would be much less weight to have to manage. I didn't think to say that until later so thanks for pointing it out.
Oh boy, I'm going to have to read up on all this stuff.

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There are a number of good videos on youtube that will give you tips about how to tow. But you no doubt could also find yourself a local mentor right in your neighborhood if you put the word out.
Yes, youtube is good for everything, from knitting to towing!

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Old 05-15-2016, 08:59 PM   #28
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Sounds like you are using a weight distributing hitch (WDH). The drawbar on my regular weight carrying hitch weighs under ten pounds. Generally 16' and under does not require a WDH; 17' and over may or may not, depending on the trailer and vehicle. A WDH is heavier and takes a few more steps to hitch up. Used correctly, it does add stability to the towing set-up.

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Agree that having a small trailer is fun!
The second one looks a lot easier! Am I right? Is it just as safe?

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