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Old 06-26-2013, 12:45 PM   #29
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Apparently it is lubricated for its life, not yours.

Yes, it is important that if you can't lubricate a bearing, you can replace it. In fact, even non-sealed bearings that get regular maintenance sometimes fail, so they need to be replaceable, too.

In practice, these sealed bearing units in cars typically last longer than the rest of the car. I've never had to replace one, and when I'm done with a car it has at least a quarter million kilometres (150,000 miles) on it.
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:16 PM   #30
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This thread is extremely helpful to me and much appreciated. So far I'm inclined to go with the E-Z lub bearings and Nev-R-Adjust brakes from Dexter. A related question is whether or not to use synthetic grease (which has a lighter consistency and much longer life) or stick with the regular bearing grease??? I guess if I went synthetic, I would ask Reese to get the bearings packed initially with the synthetic. Has anyone had experience in this regard??? Thanks, Ian
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:19 PM   #31
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What grease does the manufacturer ordinarily supply with the E-Z lubes?

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Old 06-26-2013, 04:17 PM   #32
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Type of grease

www.floeintl.com/assets/pdf/e-z_lube_greasecap.pdf In this PDF Dexter uses Lithium Complex NLGI No.2. They also list suppliers etc. Ian
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www.floeintl.com/assets/pdf/e-z_lube_greasecap.pdf In this PDF Dexter uses Lithium Complex NLGI No.2. They also list suppliers etc. Ian
I think that's a synthetic, lots of brands available. But I also think my Trillium has Natural Bear Grease in the axles, so what do I know?

We must wait to Hear From The Experts...

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Old 06-26-2013, 07:20 PM   #34
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Couple points here, in Brian's post #25 about the EZ lube axle, the statement that it is good for boat trailers and a shot of grease will force out water. That is a good idea, but imagine on a camper with brakes and someone gets the idea that if one pump of grease is good, ten pumps must be much better. And there goes grease past the seal, no matter how good that seal is, and now the brakes get grease soaked and you can't see it. Francesca has a good point too, what is the original grease so you are pumping in the same or a compatible grease. I'm a big believer in always using the same grease or oil in my vehicles. I keep things a long time, one of my tractors I got new in 1968, always used the same oil with frequent changes, and it still is running great with no oil consumption.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:15 PM   #35
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Seals and E-Z lub dexter axle

If you look at the Dexter E-Z lub axle, it is designed to circulate the grease over both bearing sets, then out by the nipple. They recommend not using a pressurized grease gun, but to gently pump a regular hand gun until the new grease appears, after the old grease has been forced out. They also recommend checking the seals once a year. Ian
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:43 PM   #36
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They also recommend checking the seals once a year. Ian
And what does that involve?
It doesn't sound any E Z er than repacking wheel bearings every year or two. I had Bearing Buddies on my boat trailer and then on my tent trailer. I think they were a good idea for the boat trailer, which got backed into salt water, but on the tent trailer, I just ended up with grease all over the tires. I was probably over enthusiastic with the grease gun.

I've had the bearings that came on my 2008 Escape inspected and repacked twice, last time a couple months ago. That visual inspection found that the bearings were in good shape and did not need replacement. Just had to be cleaned, repacked and new seals.

I have more confidence in that visual inspection than any claim from a manufacturer.
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They also recommend checking the seals once a year. Ian
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And what does that involve?
It doesn't sound any E Z er than repacking wheel bearings every year or two.
It involves disassembling the hub and repacking the bearings, of course.
Exactly why E-Z Lube is pointless for those of us not dunking our trailers.
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Ian, thanks for that info. If there is a relief hole then at least there is less chance of forcing grease past the seal. But Glenn and Brian have a point that if the trailer has brakes you can't inspect the seal without pulling the hub. It will have to be a time will tell thing to see how it works.
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Yes, while flushing the grease in an E-Z Lube axle, the grease is supposed to only come out of the front bearing, around the injection fitting. This video from Dexter Axle shows how it works: Dexter E-Z Lube® System - YouTube
I note these features, according to Dexter:
  1. The system is for boat trailers.
  2. It is used to purge contaminated grease from the bearings.
  3. It has no effect on the other maintenance requirements of the axle.

I also noticed that their illustration does not show brakes, or make it clear that any leakage past the seal will be into the brake drum... but this is a promotional video.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:11 PM   #40
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E-Z lube Video

I think the video says it all... we do a lot of very remote dry camping and could be pulling our new Escape through water that comes over the axle. I really like the idea of being able to purge out old grease and maybe water. I do realize that the brakes, seals etc. still need to be inspected yearly. I really appreciate all the input. Thanks, Ian
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It involves disassembling the hub and repacking the bearings, of course.
Exactly why E-Z Lube is pointless for those of us not dunking our trailers.
My thoughts exactly. I have one on the scamp, and can't fathom ever using the grease zerk. All the trailers I own get the bearings repacked before the first use of the year, even if it didn't move since the last time.

Other than a new set of seals, it takes so little to do. Pull the dust cap, cotter pin and nut, pull the wheel/brake drum as an assembly, knock bearings out, clean them in solvent tank (I don't believe in pushing old grease out with new), repack, slap it back together with new seals and a cotter pin. 15 minutes a wheel, and you KNOW they're good.

You know the bearings aren't scored, you know by aren't brown from over heating, you know the seals are good, you know you didn't grease your brakes, and you know the condition of your brakes.
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I installed Dexter Nev R Adjust brakes about a year ago and have they now have about 1000 miles of use. They work very well. They were about $10 more per wheel than the standard ones that need adjusting.

I've been considering changing the axle feom a 4"drop to a straight axle and from all the information I've seen the EZ lube axle and the Never lube are the only ones available now. I don't need the EZ Lube feature but if that is all that is available, I'll still buy that axle.
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