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Old 06-29-2013, 04:44 PM   #43
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  1. The system is for boat trailers.
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A trailer running gear lubrication system that's simple to maintain and completely submersible with no disassembly required. Ideal for most towable axles including boat trailer applications.
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Yes, Reese has said they can be ordered with the e-z lub axle... he wasn't too keen on them; said they were fairly new and there might be problems. But I'm inclined to get them unless others nix them enough. Ian
My EZ-Lube axle has been towed well over 60,000 miles in nine years, the bearings were set-up and lubed by hand when new and repacked by hand upon brake inspection. That has been twice so far... once at 27,000miles and again at 60,000miles.
Otherwise, I have used the EZ-lube feature. The bearings are well lubed and in perfect condition. I love this feature and (like Donna) often warn against confusing them with Bearing Buddies which are really designed for boat applications.
Let's just say that this is one of those rare occasions on which Brian and I disagree.
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Inspired by Floyd:
My Toyota Tercel rear axle was driven well over 350,000 km (217,000 miles) in seventeen years, the bearings were set-up and lubed by hand when new and repacked by hand upon brake shoe replacement. That was a couple of times, when the brakes worn down.
Otherwise, I did not squirt more grease into them. The bearings were well lubed and in perfect condition when the car was retired. I love not needing some boat trailer feature and (like Donna and Floyd) often warn against confusing E-Z Lube with Bearing Buddies which are also designed for boat applications.
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When talking about the Dexter EZ-Lube bearings, I've found there are three kinds of subjectives:

1) Don't know what it is, hasn't investigated (thinks it's a Bearing Buddy), doesn't trust the technology

2) Knows what an EZ-Lube axle is, doesn't trust it, hasn't investigated, don't trust the technology. Old Skool is good enough.

3) Has an EZ-Lube axle, maintains it as suggested/required. Perfectly happy with having one.

Dexter is moving forward with EZ-Lubes and I'm (thinking) before too long none of us will be able to buy an axle from them without this feature. Unless you're looking to buy a light-weight axle suitable for utility trailers (less than a ton).

I have one on my trailer, I'm item #3. Google is your friend. Point me to someone that has had a problem (followed maintenance, etc) and I'll believe you, truly.

I still check the brakes once a year!
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When talking about the Dexter EZ-Lube bearings, I've found there are three kinds of subjectives:

1) Don't know what it is, hasn't investigated (thinks it's a Bearing Buddy), doesn't trust the technology

2) Knows what an EZ-Lube axle is, doesn't trust it, hasn't investigated, don't trust the technology. Old Skool is good enough.

3) Has an EZ-Lube axle, maintains it as suggested/required. Perfectly happy with having one.

Dexter is moving forward with EZ-Lubes and I'm (thinking) before too long none of us will be able to buy an axle from them without this feature. Unless you're looking to buy a light-weight axle suitable for utility trailers (less than a ton).

I have one on my trailer, I'm item #3. Google is your friend. Point me to someone that has had a problem (followed maintenance, etc) and I'll believe you, truly.

I still check the brakes once a year!
I had a trailer (my 4x8) that I greased the bearings on, then it sat for three years (wasn't moved from that spot), with it sheltered by trees.

I figured they had to be fine, and talked myself out of my annual greasing before its used the first time for the year. The morning I was leaving, my conscious nagged at me, and I tore them down. They had water marks, and grit in them. There's no way they would use made the 1500 mile trip. Squirting more grease in would not have solved the problem.

The seals looked fine. I'm still at a loss as to how that happened, but it did.

I haven't broken (and won't) my annual greasing requirement since then. To me, ez lube axles are like putting on deodorant, but never showering. I also prefer to not chance greasing my brakes, and there's only one way you'll find out if you did or not…
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I had a trailer (my 4x8) that I greased the bearings on, then it sat for three years (wasn't moved from that spot), with it sheltered by trees.
Soooo Jared maybe you were closer to item #2 than #3? Annual maintenance is good, no matter the bearing care or axle. But, the problems you thought would occur didn't have anything to do with the EZ lubes.... it had more to do with a trailer that SAT for a long time....
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My Toyota Tercel rear axle was driven well over 350,000 km (217,000 miles) in seventeen years, the bearings were set-up and lubed by hand when new and repacked by hand upon brake shoe replacement. That was a couple of times, when the brakes worn down.
Otherwise, I did not squirt more grease into them. The bearings were well lubed and in perfect condition when the car was retired. I love not needing some boat trailer feature and (like Donna and Floyd) often warn against confusing E-Z Lube with Bearing Buddies which are also designed for boat applications.
Unlike your average trailer, your Tercel likely did not sit regularly for entire seasons at a time(usually outside). I have no boat trailer feature on my Scamp.
I merely inject enough grease to see a color change occasionally, since I have seen what transeasonal storage can do in terms of condensation and rust when grease is not cycled on a regular basis.

You make a good point about the similarities while ignoring the differences. Actually the more often you tow a small trailer the less often you need to grease.

If you think EZ-Lube is a foolish waste of time, then I gladly waste about 3minutes and 30 cents per year to get 20 minutes worth of smug satisfaction and decades of reliable service.
Silly me...you win!
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We still need to be careful about our suggestions.

Every single day, brand new owners of all molded towables, show up on FiberglassRV. Do we give them the best we have to offer (links to websites or threads) or only our opinions?

If I was a newbie... I would want facts... not just opinions.
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Soooo Jared maybe you were closer to item #2 than #3? Annual maintenance is good, no matter the bearing care or axle. But, the problems you thought would occur didn't have anything to do with the EZ lubes.... it had more to do with a trailer that SAT for a long time....
The point was, squirting grease in would have only removed some of the problem, at best. I've seen more than a few people on here advocate going well over three years between proper bearing repackings.

Would you keep taking a bath in a tub that was never drained, only had some fresh water added to it, and you couldn't see what the water looked like? That's what's happening, along with the potential of greasing brakes with a weak or torn dust seal.

Being able to squirt some grease is a poor substitute for proper cleaning and greasing, not too mention visual inspection of the bearings, and I've never had a need to grease bearings more than once a year, so I feel my alko ez lube was a waste of money.

If somebody isn't going to repack the bearings, then yes, ez lube is much better than nothing. I still question how you know if you greased your brakes or not, other than the obvious disaster.
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Hello, I am buying a 17' Escape Plan A trailer...does anyone have experience with Dexter self-adjusting electric brakes on this, or any other rv trailer? Any pros or cons....? Am also getting easy lub bearing set up...any pros or cons on this? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Ian
Hydraulic drum brakes are basically self adjusting whenever you brake on REVERSE. Dexter Electric brakes called "Nev-r-adjust" are told to be the only electric brakes to be self adjusting. I won't dispute that exclusivity, but personnaly, I would not bother buying anything else. Dexter brakes parts are easy to find at competitive price.

Even with the best drum brakes, you will need also a good quality electric brake controller. The good ones are called "proportionnal" controllers, meaning they will automatically sense and provide the right amount of braking power depending on the intensity required. The best brake controllers are proportionnal and "self adjusting". It only means that the initial calibration with the trailer weight is automated instead of manual. This latter option is more expensive, but not essential. In my humble opinion, I would not purchase any controller that is not proportionnal. As for the automated calibration, it is no big deal if you only care to perform the road test as specified in the instruction manual. I am delighted of the smooth performance of the Tekonsha controller I have with my Trillium 4500. This company also offers many kits that reduce the amount of time required for installation. Brake Controllers - Tekonsha

As for ez-lube hubs, It is really designed for a boat trailer, which is often submerged. ez-lube is also a very easy to maintain hub, but as Brian said, it is NOT designed to prevent you from regular maintenance, otherwise it would be called "Lazy lube". Periodic repacking of the hub bearings is still mandatory. Ez-lube will reduce the chances of an inner bearing to run out of grease, as opposed to hub "buddy" that maintain pressure on the grease with little effect on the inner bearing. Mine kept failing on my boat trailer, so I installed an ez-lube axle last year.
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I still question how you know if you greased your brakes or not, other than the obvious disaster.
You mean you don't know??
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but imagine on a camper with brakes and someone gets the idea that if one pump of grease is good, ten pumps must be much better.
You must be talking about me. And 100 is ten times better than 10 pumps!
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My Toyota Tercel rear axle was driven well over 350,000 km (217,000 miles) in seventeen years, the bearings were set-up and lubed by hand when new and repacked by hand upon brake shoe replacement. That was a couple of times, when the brakes worn down.
Otherwise, I did not squirt more grease into them. The bearings were well lubed and in perfect condition when the car was retired. I love not needing some boat trailer feature and (like Donna and Floyd) often warn against confusing E-Z Lube with Bearing Buddies which are also designed for boat applications.
I think of this in a similar context. In the bad old days, most vehicles had rear wheel drive and front spindles with tapered bearings and drum brakes very similar to a trailer spindle. Generally the bearings were repacked with each brake job, and attention to the bearings between brake jobs was rare.

I think one major difference with trailers is the usage rate. In a car that gets driven regularly, the bearing heats up daily, drives off any moisture that has condensed there, melts the grease, and redistributes it as it rolls. Contrast this to a trailer that may sit for months, in heat and cold pulling in moisture with the bearing in a static position where there can be a long term interaction between the bearing roller and the bearing cone surfaces. I suspect that trailers that are pulled frequently need less bearing attention for the reasons stated.
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