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Old 03-03-2019, 10:10 AM   #1
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F-150 3.5 EcoBoost?

I'm a Ford girl so pretty set in my ways:
1st car was a 64.5 Mustang Fastback and continued with Mustangs until 2000 when I bought a Windstar which I currently own and converted into a camper (287k) miles.

Just made plans to get a 2013 Scamp fiver
So...I'm finally entering the truck world. Must have the crew cab for the flat storage space in the back as it will hold supplies that won't fit in the Scamp.
Looked at F-150's yesterday and discovered the EcoBoost 3.5 but also know about the 2.7.

I will be using the truck as my only daily driver, so fuel efficiency would be nice but dependability is key. Since this is a relatively new engine for Ford, I wanted to get some feedback about this engine compared to a standard 3.3L V6.

I will be buying used and hopefully keep to my budget of under 30k

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Old 03-03-2019, 10:23 AM   #2
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I don't have any experience with the turbo engines, but if you're looking at a daily driver you might even consider the new Ford Ranger. As long as you don't go crazy on the option list, you can get the crew cab with trailer package and locking rear axle just under 30,000 MSRP. They all use the same engine and transmission and can tow 7,500 lbs.
The engine is basically the same one now used in the Mustang, so it has been around awhile.
I know Floyd, the Scamp guru, is impressed and has one on order.
The new Ford Ranger is even stronger than the old Ford Ranger that Scamp uses to deliver the Scamp 19 footers.
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Old 03-03-2019, 10:27 AM   #3
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Thanks Radar1!
Looked at the Ranger yesterday as I really was hoping to love it!
Not impressed with how Ford designed the back crew space. Seats do not drop down flat so I have no way to make the Ranger work.
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Old 03-03-2019, 10:54 AM   #4
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3.5 ecoboost

We just bought a Ford Expedition 2018 with new gen 2 eco-boost(same as F-150 truck except independent rear suspension . If buying used make sure its a 2017 model or newer which has port and direct injection on the motor 3.5 which helps keep the intake valves clean .With the 3.5 eco we get 19-20 around town mpg and over 25 mpg on hwy with a 3.31 rear end . Trucks can come with a variety of rear ends 3.31,3.55,3.73 which can have the better traction and trailer tow package . The Expedition comes with a 6000lb tow rating right from factory.Good Luck .

Check out the 5.0TA from Escape trailers
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Cheryl,

The 3.5 was redesigned in 2017, so you should probably not go older than that year. Plus, the early 3.5s got worse mileage than the later retuned ones. I'm not a big fan, so I don't know all of the details.

I suggest getting the lower differential ratio for towing. This will allow the 10 speed trans to better use it's upper gears and give you a good low ratio for pulling. Mileage should not be affected by this when towing or driving around town. Driving unloaded on the highway, it might be slightly affected, but that is when the mileage is best anyway.

Second, have you checked the design towing height of the hitch on the Scamp, compared to the bed height of the F-150? The bed sides are quite high and IIRC there has been some talk about this. The scamp may have to be towed at a steep up angle.

If you are getting the full sized four door cab, you'll probably be looking at the shortest bed length. Make sure the hitch position allows full 90% turns without trailer to cab contact.
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Old 03-03-2019, 12:12 PM   #6
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Thanks for the heads up on the 2017 redesign. I've been on the EcoBoost forum for hours reading about many of the headaches and hope the 2017 corrected most of the problems.

Really not sure I need the EcoBoost since I only plan to tow about 4 times a year and then park the scamp to work camp. Plus...I'm a simple user that connects more bells and whistles to more things breaking.

The current owner of the Scamp stated that it has been factory lifted to fit in today's modern trucks and rides level in his 2004 Ram 2500. He assured me there are no problems with the 90 angle. I've been unable to talk with anyone at Scamp.
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Old 03-03-2019, 12:19 PM   #7
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There is one design flaw on the new Ranger already, the rear axle springs are less than desirable, one single main spring per side with a short overload then rubber spring bumpers that your truck will flatten out on as soon as you hook up just with tongue weight. See the Ike Gauntlet Towing video on the Ranger. They show the spring setup and its bottomed out sitting. And offroad this spring setup is lousy, it bounces way too much according to the test reviews on it. The truck needs a normal spring pack.
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Does anyone have information about using a hybrid for towing? Will towing a camper cause damage to the hybrid feature in any way? I'm planning to get a Highlander Hybrid and really want to be sure I won't damage the hybrid functions by towing, as long as I'm careful to keep my total load well below the towing capacity. But don't want to burn out my hybrid if they don't like towing.
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Old 03-03-2019, 01:44 PM   #9
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Does anyone have information about using a hybrid for towing? Will towing a camper cause damage to the hybrid feature in any way? I'm planning to get a Highlander Hybrid and really want to be sure I won't damage the hybrid functions by towing, as long as I'm careful to keep my total load well below the towing capacity. But don't want to burn out my hybrid if they don't like towing.
Why not start a new thread about that, rather than hijack this one and lead it astray.
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Old 03-03-2019, 02:50 PM   #10
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For a Scamp 13, I'd get the 2.7EB. For something larger, say the Scamp 16, I'd go the 3.5 EB.

The EB does great mileage wise when empty.

In the end I still like my 2010 F150 with the 5.4 V8. Sure there is a fuel mileage penalty, but it gets comparable mileage towing to the EB, and it was a lot cheaper used.

The thing about TV, you never know when you will get 2 foot fever, nice to have a TV that has more than enough capacity to handle a bigger trailer.
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Old 03-03-2019, 02:57 PM   #11
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i pull my 25' BF with 2018 2.7L ecoboost and no problems. avg 11.5 mpg with trailer, plus great daily driver.
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I tow my Escape 5.0TA with a 2015 2.7L EcoBoost and typically get 14+ MPG, 24.5 MPG on the highway not towing. I previously had a 2012 3.5L EcoBoost. It was overkill, a veritable rocket. I had no problem with the 3.5 and none so far with the 2.7. I would PERSONALLY avoid the Ranger if towing a Scamp 19 as it is narrower and there have been questions about the rear suspension, though it should pull any small fiberglass bumper pull very well.
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My coworker just had his F150 Ecoboost blow up on him... he was a big Ecoboost fan before that, loved the way it towed, but replaced it with a 5.0 liter F150 if that tells you anying. Just one data point but there it is...
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My coworker just had his F150 Ecoboost blow up on him... he was a big Ecoboost fan before that, loved the way it towed, but replaced it with a 5.0 liter F150 if that tells you anying. Just one data point but there it is...
It's an interesting question. How many data points are required to actually bring confidence that a personal conclusion is valid? As Cheryl said: "I've been on the EcoBoost forum for hours reading about many of the headaches and hope the 2017 corrected most of the problems."

I personally would never buy something with known problems and "hope" that "many" of the problems had been corrected, when there are other ones with no such problems.

My neighbor had an Ecoboost F150 too. After the third time getting stranded and towed, he sold it. But I'm sure there are many stories of reliable units to. Mine is just one more data point.

Brand loyalty is a big factor in deciding what to purchase, but has little to do with real world reliability. Proof over time is better. And a recent redesign to fix problems, but with not much of a track record since, is not too confidence inspiring. I find it interesting that brand loyalty is more important than a track record of reliability.

I'm tiptoeing around the brand loyalty quagmire and may be risking umpteen responses like: "Never one problem in 20 years while getting 30 MPG towing my bulldozer over the rocky mountains". But so be it.
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