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Old 11-18-2014, 07:23 PM   #29
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Yes clearly the question has been answered. A Ford Escape can certainly tow and the trailer Hitch is fine. The new generation Escape is now in its third model year and are starting to show up on the used lots. make sure to get the 2.0 ecoboost to get the 3500 pound tow rating if you go for new generation model



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Old 11-18-2014, 08:44 PM   #30
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For whatever reason, on the new generation 2.0L Ecoboost Escapes, the 3500 lb tow rating is only specified for the factory tow package. On page 197 of the owners manual, it only lists a 2000 lb tow rating for aftermarket tow packages. Don't ask me why and please don't shoot the messenger.
I have the 2014 Escape with the factory tow package and was a bit surprised to read that in the manual. 😱

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Old 11-18-2014, 08:53 PM   #31
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Same with Cherokee.. Must be V6 with factory tow package to get 4500 lb tow capacity

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Old 11-18-2014, 09:43 PM   #32
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I have looked at used prices of the new generation Ford Escapes, and they appear to have depreciated more rapidly than the other vehicles of same age that I've looked at (mainly Ford Explorer, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Toyota Highlander). I have seen 2012 Escapes with 2L Ecoboost and fairly low miles (25k to 35k) priced at less than 75% of new. I think this is a good buy on the used market.
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:58 PM   #33
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I have looked at used prices of the new generation Ford Escapes, and they appear to have depreciated more rapidly than the other vehicles of same age that I've looked at (mainly Ford Explorer, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Toyota Highlander). I have seen 2012 Escapes with 2L Ecoboost and fairly low miles (25k to 35k) priced at less than 75% of new. I think this is a good buy on the used market.
That's not bad depreciation, you should never pay 80% of list for a new one.
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Old 11-19-2014, 02:10 PM   #34
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"List Price" is only the starting point in the negoations...no one ever pays list.

The only real purpose served by the window sticker is to list all the standard equipment and options installed at the factory. Always keep that window sticker with the vehicle. Law in most states is that the dealer must give it to you when it is delivered new. Dealers are forbidden by law from tampering with this document in any way!!! buyer beware!!!
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1. new generation Escape was a 2013 model
2.Why in the world would you keep the window sticker for your vehicle?

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Old 11-19-2014, 04:19 PM   #36
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1. new generation Escape was a 2013 model
2.Why in the world would you keep the window sticker for your vehicle?

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I think the post is more about the window sticker should be there. It is the "official" list of equipment the manufacturer provided. Not that you would want to keep it, just beware if it is missing.

I would have loved to have seen that sticker for my commuter Pontiac Sunfire GT because I know that there is no such thing as a 4 door GT model and it does not have the larger GT engine. It does have the GT decals.

I know the original owner, a 90 year old gentleman that I'm pretty sure would not be putting "sport" decals on the car. Man did not believe in power accessories such as windows or mirrors, considering it just frilly expensive stuff to break (I tend to agree).

His daughter owned the car after him and she did not put the decals on it. So.... Who put the up market decals on the car? That window sticker would have stated what the manufacturer designated for the car. Which would have clarified if the dealer added decals to up market the car. Or if they just made a mistake on the assembly line.
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I don't pay list price for new cars, either. My point simply was using list price as a comparison point for the used vehicle prices. The other vehicles I mentioned, with similar miles and age, tend to be priced in the range of 80%-87% of list price. Thus my conclusion that the 2012 Escapes are a relatively good buy because they've already taken a larger depreciation hit percentage-wise.
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I don't pay list price for new cars, either. My point simply was using list price as a comparison point for the used vehicle prices. The other vehicles I mentioned, with similar miles and age, tend to be priced in the range of 80%-87% of list price. Thus my conclusion that the 2012 Escapes are a relatively good buy because they've already taken a larger depreciation hit percentage-wise.
I'm saying that the reason for that is that those other vehicles tend to sell much closer to list than the Escape when new.
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Why keep the original window sticker from your new car?? Simple: when you sell your vehicle down the road the buyer might want to see what the factory installed...like the tow package etc.
Just one more selling point.
Some dealers, using your vin number, can get a computer printed listing of the original factory sticker and how the vehicle was equipped when it left the factory.
I know that Toyota does this for used cars made by Toyota.

It is far too easy for a seller to claim something is factory installed when it is not.

GM is famous for assembling Vehicles with "mix and non-matching parts from other models or divisions....i have seen this more than once...low quality control.
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I keep the window sticker and the sales brochure if I get one. They go in the folder along with the maintenance records. If I sell privately they go to the buyer. Raz
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Old 11-22-2014, 09:20 AM   #41
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P.Raz has it right...keep records to show a future buyer you maintained the vehicle you are trying to sell. You will do two things by selling your used vehicle to a private buyer...save the buyer many hundreds vs. buying a traded vehicle from a profit making dealer....you will get more from a private sale vs. trading-in your used vehicle.....end result...two happy customers!!!....You get more and the buyer saves money....Happy, Happy.

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Thank you for all the replies, folks. I'm still looking every day. My price range, which is cheap, finds me at a 2008 Escape, 6 cylinder. Would like the limited, with the tow package and payload capacity increase. I thought that the older models were in fact true 4 wheel drive? Not? I get that the newer ones are AWD. What are your thoughts on that? I guess I'm coming from the thinking that I don't want front wheel drive when towing as to my mind it would put a lot of strain on the transmission. All wheel drive would be a gas guzzler? These are just my assumptions, probably not based on any real knowledge. That's why your experiences and thoughts are so appreciated.

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