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Old 03-25-2013, 04:31 PM   #29
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AS I've said before my insurance company insures both our trailer and tow vehicle, my only vehicle. We do have a claim, once we were hit by another vehicle. We were stopped at the time.
Yes, I remember- and as I recall your insurance company paid off. (Though now that I think about it I wonder why the guy that hit you didn't have to take responsibility!) My question as it relates here is as to what if any effect your long term towing over the car mfr. limits has had on your coverage/rates etc.

So many folks seem to maintain that the practice has a negative effect on insurance coverage; and since you have experience in that department I thought you could enlighten us as to whether that's a bunch of hooey or what.

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What hasn't been factored in is how happy you will be that your insurance company paid the claim, how happy you are with the mileage you achieved, even though you are now dead.
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which really has nothing to do with the original question.. another hijacked thread
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Then there are places, like Saskatchewan, where they have "No fault" insurance.
"No fault" insurance just means that each driver's loss is covered by their own insurance company, regardless of who is at fault. Saskatchewan presumably does this since the same insurance company (almost) always covers both drivers - since they have no competition - and so it doesn't matter to their costs who is to blame... they just pay out regardless. Fault is still likely assessed, with varying consequences depending on where you are and what happened.

Google search "no fault insurance" to see this explained by various insurance companies.

Yes, liability insurance is to cover when you are liable for any sort of loss; in general coverage should only be denied if you were not following the terms of the policy, such as by letting someone drive who is not allowed. I don't think the policy is going to say you can't mess up; it sure won't say you must be following everyone's rules about everything to be covered... and I would be astounded if it said the policy is void if you don't buy the towing package for your Escape. There we go - back on topic!
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Keep the information flowing . really great to hear from all you who are knowledgeable and mechanical.. great to read the variety of opinions
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which really has nothing to do with the original question.. another hijacked thread
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I couldn't find anywhere in my documents or online for that matter as to what my factory towing package included. Finally ended up calling the service department at my Ford dealer. I was told the factory towing package on the 2009 Escape XLT has the transmission cooler built into the Air Conditioning unit. The Escape with the Factory Towing package and the V6 e series engine is capable of towing 3500 lbs. Hope this helps anyone who may be wondering as I was, about what the towing package included. I forgot to ask about the 7 way plug though....
I negotiated such a good price on my 2003 Honda Odyssey, that the salesperson claimed that the "Towing Package" only consisted of a class II hitch receiver and a 4-pin flat tail-light cable/connector and was $400 extra.
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I negotiated such a good price on my 2003 Honda Odyssey, that the salesperson claimed that the "Towing Package" only consisted of a class II hitch receiver and a 4-pin flat tail-light cable/connector and was $400 extra.
Agree! If it doesn't include a brake controller and a seven pin plug, with a #10 power wire, what's the point? I'd prefer a 2" receiver anyway. If there are welders in your life, the install may only be a 24 flat away from done. The beer is definitely provided, after the install.
I looked at the tow package on the 2013 Ford Escape. $500. Is it more then a 4 pin plug and a class 2 hitch with the deletion of the foot operated hatch? I'd like to install a class 3 hitch, and try moving the sensors, or what ever. That seems like a good feature. Is a transmission cooler at least part of the tow package?
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Agree! If it doesn't include a brake controller and a seven pin plug, with a #10 power wire, what's the point? I'd prefer a 2" receiver anyway. If there are welders in your life, the install may only be a 24 flat away from done. The beer is definitely provided, after the install.
I looked at the tow package on the 2013 Ford Escape. $500. Is it more then a 4 pin plug and a class 2 hitch with the deletion of the foot operated hatch? I'd like to install a class 3 hitch, and try moving the sensors, or what ever. That seems like a good feature. Is a transmission cooler at least part of the tow package?
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OK, sorry moderators, I am coping and pasting. I posted this in the wrong thread.

This traction control algorithm is interesting though. I wonder if it can be activated after the fact.
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Fred, is it possible that you have too much time on your hands?
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I negotiated such a good price on my 2003 Honda Odyssey, that the salesperson claimed that the "Towing Package" only consisted of a class II hitch receiver and a 4-pin flat tail-light cable/connector and was $400 extra.
I don't doubt that claim at all. For the Sienna, Toyota - generally very directly competitive with Honda - sells a towing prep package (bigger transmission cooler, etc), and separately sells the hitch and trailer wiring as accessories. The Class 2 hitch and 4-pin wiring (with converter) were more than $400 in 2003... I think the hitch alone was more than $400 (Canadian).

It is a very good Class 2 hitch...
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My RAV4 V6 Sport came with the transmission cooler and heavy duty alternator as standard ( in Canada, but not the U.S. ). The "towing package" was just under $1,000 and consisted of a wiring harness and class II hitch.
I told the dealer I needed a class III. They brought in a hitch installer and in the Toyota shop, installed the Class III Hidden Hitch receiver, 7-pin wiring harness ( with a #10 ground wire ), and my brake controller for $650.
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