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Old 04-13-2018, 07:21 AM   #1
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Front rear, rear wheel, all/four wheel for towing?

Hi, I am researching towing vehicles. My TV will also be my everyday car. I have heard different things about whether to get a front wheel, rear wheel or all/four wheel drive vehicle. Any advice or experience? Thanks in advance.
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Old 04-13-2018, 07:31 AM   #2
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Debbie you need to figure out what you are going to be towing? trailer weight, tongue weight trailer length so forth!

Lots of us here own scamp 13footers about anything within reason can tow these but move up to a 16f or longer then larger cars or trucks come into play.

there are some real pros here to guide you in your selection. you have come to the right site though!


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Old 04-13-2018, 07:39 AM   #3
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Hi, I am researching towing vehicles. My TV will also be my everyday car. I have heard different things about whether to get a front wheel, rear wheel or all/four wheel drive vehicle. Any advice or experience? Thanks in advance.
On a side note, most 4 wheel or awd crossover/small suvs that you buy now a days are all fwd until the front wheels loose traction. Then the rear wheels kick in temporarily to give you give you enough traction to get out of the situation. So your basically going to be looking at all fwd cars anyway, unless you move up to something like a large jeep cherokee, toyota 4 runner or a pickup truck. I wouldn't worry about it, just get a car that is capable of towing what you plan on towing.
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It depends on how heavy your trailer is.

For lighter trailers, FWD is adequate, although you may occasionally get some loss of traction while climbing grades on slippery surfaces- loose gravel or wet grass- in a campground or back road. AWD on a FWD-based chassis is a good upgrade, and many manufacturers give a higher tow rating to the AWD version.

For heavier trailers, a RWD pickup or SUV is better. In that case, the benefits of 4WD are less and the components add weight that often reduces the tow rating and payload. If you may tow in winter conditions or on back roads, I'd recommend it. If not, RWD (with a limited slip rear differential if available) is fine.

If you are still planning to tow a 16' Casita, I would recommend any of the various AWD crossovers with tow ratings in the 5000# range: Pilot, Highlander, Pathfinder, Santa Fe (not Sport), Sorento, Explorer,... In addition to comfort, cost, and reliability, research towing set-up (particularly wiring) for each vehicle. Some are easy to wire for a trailer, others are not.
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Old 04-13-2018, 08:03 AM   #5
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Thanks Bob, Dave and Jon for great advice. And Bob for remembering I was considering the 16 foot Casita. I will probably go with the 16 or 17 foot Casita as I can get a new one by mid summer. Scamps are now saying there is a year long waiting list. Still assessing. Some folks have told me that many people often want to upgrade trailer size so get a TV that can accommodate the upgrade. Even if I get a 13 ft. SCAMP, I want a toilet (heavier). Its all a matter of trade offs. I prefer a smaller vehicle but am not experienced at any of this (I am a tent camper getting too rickety for that!) so want a vehicle that will have the power to do the needful (including travel in the mountains) and is reliable since I am solo. So, very much appreciate advice and experiences. Keep it coming! I have looked at the Sante Fe (not a Sport), the Ford Explorer and the Toyota Highlander. Welcome and feedback on that. Agree I am in the right place for great advice. Thank you!
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The difference in weight and (especially) tongue weight between the 16' and 17' Casita is significant. The tongue weight of the 17' is near the limit of what the FWD-based vehicles can handle and will probably necessitate use of a weight-distributing hitch. I would make that decision before I bought the vehicle. Casita may be able to set you up with a local owner for a demo of both models.

On the other hand, if you go with a 13' Scamp bathroom model (which I see as fine for one person), you can step down to a smaller 3500# rated AWD crossover: Santa Fe Sport 2.0T, Ford Escape Titanium, Kia Sorento 2.0T, Toyota RAV-4 Adventure, to name a few.

In this case, the advice "trailer first, then tug" applies.
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Debbie you are maintaing an open mind good thing! I have done about everything with rvs up to a 40f converted bus it was too much not much fun back to a tent!

then we found at our age getting off the ground getting harder and harder so we got an A-Liner loved that thing easy to tow and had lots of room to now after 2 big-time back surgery to a 13f scamp.

I would not consider a b/r in a 13f scmper go for it if you want but it will be cramped big time. we use a portapottie we have no water no stove we don't want either. we use a campstove for cooking and heating water. we are also primary boondockers call us frugal!

for you consideration there are several used scamps, casitas other up for consideration in our classifieds. some at a real savings over new and you can get them no wait.

this site is devoted to fiberglass rvs you will find the greatest most knowlegable people on the planet right here and willing to help you in your decisions.

good luck and glad to have you

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A great combination is a 15 or 16 ft trailer with a Toyota Highlander. Even a hybrid if you can find a used one. Or afford a new one.
Or, any other brand of mid-size SUV. Ours is 4WD; essentialy FWD until the front tires begin to slip when the rear wheels pick up the load.
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I personally wouldn't tow a trailer with a car that has a CVT transmission. I would move up to a car with a heavier duty transmission. You can read about them on line and make up your own mind.
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I agree with jon our problem we had an A-Liner about anything will tow that trailer then back surgery hit so bought a 13f scamper about 400lbs more. our ford edge fw handles it but I wish I had something else but then again we made it in the mountains just fine.


I would not attempt this with a 16f but I am sure there is someone out there doing it.


so pick out your trailer and get your tug matched to it you will be happier!


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I personally wouldn't tow a trailer with a car that has a CVT transmission. I would move up to a car with a heavier duty transmission. You can read about them on line and make up your own mind.
As far as I know, the only one in this class of vehicles with a CVT is the Nissan Pathfinder, and it has one of the higher tow ratings. Go figure...
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I personally wouldn't tow a trailer with a car that has a CVT transmission. I would move up to a car with a heavier duty transmission. You can read about them on line and make up your own mind.
That's your hangup. Our 2007 Highlander Hybrid with CVT worked very well, no problems. The rear axle is driven by an electric motor that kicks in when the front wheels begin to slip. I would have bought another one, except that newer ones came only in the Limited (highest priced) version. And a 2013 non hybrid with a trailer hitch came available at my local dealer.
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I am sort of not informed on these Hondas how do they work?

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That's your hangup. Our 2007 Highlander Hybrid with CVT worked very well, no problems
Toyota's Synergy Drive is a totally different animal than the usual "belt drive" or "chain drive" most CVT vehicles have. Toyota calls it a CVT only because the electric and gas motors combined in the planetary gear system have an "infinite" number of ratios by design, but that is only similarity. Toyota's hybrid system is actually very simple in principle (complicated in its implementation) and quite sturdy and reliable. No belts, no chains. I wouldn't mind towing with a hybrid Highlander, but I wouldn't touch a CVT Pathfinder even if it was given to me.
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