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Old 02-09-2015, 09:53 AM   #15
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If you decide to tow with the TDI please get one of the euro hitches that is rated by TUV for the car. Tha would be Westfalia, Bosal, or one of the others listed by the manufacturer. The US made hitches are rated for considerably less and mount differently.
If you drive in the US and want to go by the best practices listed my the very cautious you need at least a 3/4 ton pickup truck.
If you believe that the mechanicals of the VW are weakened just for the US market then you probably shouldn't buy a VW at all.
By the way the Westfalia wiring kit has the selection in the software for North American light control so perhaps Westfalia recognized that theat kit might be used here.
The Westfalia is not DOT approved, but then perhaps they don't want to make the hitch system weaker than the TUV regulations that it does meet.
The TUV seems to be a more stringent standard than DOT.
If you GCVW is over 10,000 lbs then DOT regulations apply.
Less than 10,000 then there are gray areas depending on the state and if state lines are crossed.
Not being a Philidelphia lawyer I have not checked on all of the legal ramifications, however the VW TDI does a great job for me.
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Old 02-09-2015, 10:02 AM   #16
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Europe vs. America Towing:

The laws are different.
The regulations are different.
The customers are different.
The expectations are different.
The cars and trucks are different.

And it's not a vast conspiracy by US manufactures to trick us into buying larger tow vehicles.

And hey, I tore the label off my mattress and pillows so it's not like I drank the manufacturer's Kool Aid and sometimes I drink milk after the expiration date so it's not like I don't take risks sometimes.
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Old 02-09-2015, 10:09 AM   #17
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3/4 Ton Truck necessary to tow a ???

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"If you drive in the US and want to go by the best practices listed my the very cautious you need at least a 3/4 ton pickup truck."
Now, how is that totally incorrect statement adding to the discussion?
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Old 02-09-2015, 10:35 AM   #18
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I drink milk after the expiration date so it's not like I don't take risks sometimes.


Steve,

Isn't the stamped date on milk the "purchase by date" and not the expiration date"?

I just cooked breakfast for 80 with an unopened gallon of milk dated Feb 1.
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"I've already discovered - since yesterday - that (at least according to Can-Am), a hitch-is not a hitch-is not a hitch."
Keep in mind that Can-Am's opinion, one that promotes ignoring manufacturers weight limits, and is basically telling the entire population of North America that what we are doing for towing is wrong, doesn't seem to be supported by many (if any) others in the business, at least not openly.

But their business is that of selling Airstream trailers and said hitching systems.

To paraphrase the old Packard motto: "Ask the man who sells them" ?
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...I just cooked breakfast for 80 with an unopened gallon of milk dated Feb 1.


There you go...Even the tolerance for risk varies around here.
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Why not buy a small utility trailer with a cover and tent it . This addresses all of your concerns . good luck
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I'm not specifically directing this to the original poster, but it seems a little like asking your mom for something and if you don’t like the answer, ask your dad. I’ve observed that because someone really, really, really wants to do something, it trumps physics. I mean, after all, they’re really not laws of physics…they’re just, you know, sort of guidelines.
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:08 AM   #23
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I've already discovered - since yesterday - that (at least according to Can-Am), a hitch-is not a hitch-is not a hitch. Now I have to find someone locally who can install a hitch on MY vehicle to pull MY trailer and do it to provide the least wear on the car and the trailer AND the greatest efficiency and safety. As I might have suspected, this is turning into a less simple process than I was aware of.
Yup! Thats a fact.

For one thing you will have a real tough time finding a hitch that is in all ways the same as what they use in Europe. As far as I am aware what Can-Am puts on it will not even be the same as what would put on it in Europe.

Secondly should you actually find a hitch that is the same as the one they use on the car in Europe its a good bet they will need to butcher up the rear bumper area of your car in order to install it. Yes another difference between your car and the ones sold in Europe is the bumper in order to meet DOT requirements in NA.

Thirdly you can expect to pay a couple of thousand dollars for the hitch install, assuming you eventually actually find one that is in all ways the same hitch.
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Good day Kevin. I believe you have an impressive TV providing it is set up right. There are many factors that come into safe towing and a big one is getting the connection and set up right.

The Euro hitches are nothing to write home about. A pro custom is so much more substantial and if engineered and installed correctly will give you the best results even when considering the upgrade to a WDH.

Best of luck with the venture of setting up the TDI.

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I am guessing that Bruce Jenner also drove for many years without problems, until yesterday. Watch and see what happens there.
Brian Williams was in the Escalade with Bruce. He will be a very credible witness. The other car came out of "nowhere"
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This topic, once again, seems to have run its course (and is becoming repetitious). Thanks all for participating.
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