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Old 09-04-2014, 06:13 PM   #71
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If I read it right, the Pilot manual says not to use weight distribution hitches and recommends premium gas when towing.
I can't speak for 2012 models, but my 2011 manual recommends premium for towing over 3500#.

You are right about the non-use of WDH. Seems to be a common restriction among modern unibody vehicles. Not that some people don't use them anyway, but you're on your own if you do.
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Old 09-04-2014, 06:14 PM   #72
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I think the different brands/designs act differently when set up.

Our car is similar to your setup Glenn but this Mercedes SUV is different again.
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Old 09-04-2014, 10:06 PM   #73
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Thanks for the advice and the photos! Is the WDH the same as sway bars, or is that something different. I didn't seem to need anything towing my 13' Boler with the Subaru but this is definitely heavier.
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Sway bars are different. They work to minimize side-to-side motions. A properly engineered and correctly loaded trailer (tongue weight = 10-15% of total trailer weight) shouldn't normally "wag its tail." Some use a sway bar as an added measure of safety for unusual situations, such as a sudden gust of wind or an emergency lane change.

Actually, neither WDH nor sway bars are the most important thing you should be concerned about when moving up to a heavier trailer. Brakes are. Honda requires trailer brakes over 1000#. Make sure the brakes on your trailer are in good order, and get your new tow vehicle set up with a good brake controller.
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Old 09-05-2014, 07:19 AM   #75
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Connie,

I towed with a lighter tow vehicle, a Honda CRV. I used a sway bar for most of our towing years and still do. Tow bars cost little, are easy to install and easy to use. We used one because when we were novices we were told that we'd be happy to have one in an (undefined) emergency situation. Not knowing anything we spent the $50.

We had two emergency situations. Did the sway bar help? Again I don't know but both situations ended without accident and the trailer behaved perfectly.

Our Honda CRV, similar to your Subaru, had a limited tongue capacity. We packed to minimize our tongue weight. Our tongue weighed between 200 and 220 lbs, typically in the 7-8% range.

A WDH helps by transferring weight from the rear axle of the tow vehicle to the front axle. Definitely a WDH performs a positive function though WDHs are not recommended for all tow vehicles.

Since you have a Scamp 16 with brakes, brakes should not be an issue.
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Since you have a Scamp 16 with brakes, brakes should not be an issue.

Norm, I was just thinking that, given a 19 year old "new" trailer, having the brakes inspected and purchasing and installing a controller are higher priorities than adding a sway bar.
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That WDH sure looks peculiar to me. 8 (EIGHT ) links, none hanging?
Mine is hooked on third link, leaving two hanging and the bars are level.
And I particularly like the way they jury-rigged the chain together with those nuts and bolts...
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Connie..... I like safety devices which can include many things depending on the components inclusive to the particular rig.

In some cases I have seen WDH's, anti sway bars, tire upgrades, shock upgrades, etc. Every rig owner has a different set of standards when it comes to handling, performance, and safety.

I always suggest the use of a qualified towing pro/store to get your rig set up especially for folks who are new to the game.
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And I particularly like the way they jury-rigged the chain together with those nuts and bolts...
You have a good eye for the fine details Steve.

That nut and bolt is not holding two chains together. It is actually a very cool idea to fine tune the spring bar tension. I use the idea myself at times. From an engineering or safety aspect there is no foul. Works great.
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Here is a closer look at the "nut and bolt" adjustment idea.
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I don't disagree with the brake controller or brake inspection. Just responding about anti sway and wdh.

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Old 09-06-2014, 11:30 AM   #82
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Brakes have been a biggie for me. Had my 13' Boler set up with a Prodigy controller. Plan to have the brakes checked and the new vehicle also set up probably with the same Prodigy. Another part of Pilot towing requirements is a full-size spare tire (not standard equipment). Does anyone know if the regular size spare fits in the same space as the "emergency" spare? Am asking as I had a Mazda one time with the little spare. I had to replace it and a new one cost a fortune. The guy in the shop said just get a regular tire as they also fit in the same space (under the hood). And it did! Thanks so much, you've all been a great help!
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Connie, a standard wheel and tire will fit in the space for the donut. I'm pretty sure you can use the 17" steel wheel from the base trim as a spare even if you have the 18" alloys (check with a dealer, but I believe the smaller wheel has a higher profile tire, so the circumference is the same). A brand new wheel from a dealer is pricey, but sometimes they have swap-outs at a discount. Check out auto recyclers (aka, junkyards) in your area. There's also a Pilot owners forum that's worth a look in the classified section: Honda Pilot - Honda Pilot Forums.
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