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Old 07-16-2018, 01:00 PM   #29
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We have a Gen 2 AWD Ridgeline that replaced our Gen 3 4Runner as our tow vehicle for our 17' SD. When we were replacing the 4Runner we looked at the Dodge Ram 1500 (both 5.7 Hemi and EcoDiesel) and Ford F-150 (both the 2.7EB and 3.5E. My girlfriend is the main driver of the truck and she shot down both the full size trucks as she felt much more comfortable driving the Ridgeline due to it's size. Also, the ride of the Ridgeline was hard to beat with just the right amount of firmness and road feedback while being really plush. If it were up to me I would have chosen the F-150 3.5EB which had everything I wanted and plenty of capacity to carry us into the future if we wanted to get a larger rig.
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I wouldn’t try it with my F150 with a 5.4 V8.

So just what do you think it would take?
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We have a Gen 2 AWD Ridgeline that replaced our Gen 3 4Runner as our tow vehicle for our 17' SD. When we were replacing the 4Runner we looked at the Dodge Ram 1500 (both 5.7 Hemi and EcoDiesel) and Ford F-150 (both the 2.7EB and 3.5E. My girlfriend is the main driver of the truck and she shot down both the full size trucks as she felt much more comfortable driving the Ridgeline due to it's size. Also, the ride of the Ridgeline was hard to beat with just the right amount of firmness and road feedback while being really plush. If it were up to me I would have chosen the F-150 3.5EB which had everything I wanted and plenty of capacity to carry us into the future if we wanted to get a larger rig.
Your in the same boat as I am, G2 Ridgeline and Casita, very happy with this combination and it works better then I though it would. Now thinking within a year or two we might want to move up to an Oliver which looks like we would have to purchase another truck to handle the Oliver. I probably would have not purchased the Ridgeline if there was any thoughts of purchasing a travel trailer at the time we bought the Ridgeline. One thing is we don't drive the Ridgeline that much and it only has 12,000 miles on it and it is two years old. One thought that you and I both have is what truck to upgrade to and what engine size, I now think it should be a 3/4 ton diesel, just think about if we wake up one day and decide we want a 30' 5th wheel trailer and we under bought the wrong truck again. Probably the best thing is stick with what you have until that day comes, it may never come.

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Bill have you priced a F150 with the optional max payload ,max towing package and 3.5 liter eco boost ?
Our local Ford dealership said if I wanted those options they had to order the vehicle and they could sell me a 3/4 ton truck off their lot for almost the same
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I haven't priced it yet. I'm probably at least a year out before I buy a new truck. It won't be cheap for sure! Its pretty easy to get over $50K on a truck, heck they have some that are $75K or more.

Myself, the best payload ratings tend to be with the lower models. I have a friend with a 2017 EB XLT, its very nice. Not as plush as my Lariat model, but nice! Sadly, in general, the higher the model, like a Platinum or a King Ranch, the lower the available payload. I doubt the car dealers ever bring that up to potential buyers!

The highest payload package right now takes the long bed truck, I prefer the shorter bed, so I will probably give up some payload. Decisions, decisions!
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So just what do you think it would take?
A max payload F150, with max towing package, and 3.5 EB motor. Its a towing beast! Those have over twice the payload of my 2010 F150 and 40% more tow rating. I tend to buy used, the next TV will likely be new so I can dial in the specs rather than accept what someone else bought.
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A max payload F150, with max towing package, and 3.5 EB motor. Its a towing beast! Those have over twice the payload of my 2010 F150 and 40% more tow rating. I tend to buy used, the next TV will likely be new so I can dial in the specs rather than accept what someone else bought.
I agree with your idea of researching and buying the right tool for the job you choose to do.

That's one of the main reasons we own the perfect compromise (our Scamp13)...
Besides the fun and convenience of a travel trailer, we get to drive something every day which is driveable, parkable, and affordable.


For the price of an Oliver and a new overkill truck, I could stay in fine motels and drive something like an RS Focus for the rest of my traveling days, but I do love my travel trailer.


BTW...I saw a beautifully prepared Ridgeline towing a Scamp 5er. Nice rig and I believe that the trunk in the bed was still accessible.
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...BTW...I saw a beautifully prepared Ridgeline towing a Scamp 5er. Nice rig and I believe that the trunk in the bed was still accessible.
Now that's something I would like to hear more about! Seems like an ideal match from a size and weight perspective, but the conventional wisdom is that the bed design makes it impossible.
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Now that's something I would like to hear more about! Seems like an ideal match from a size and weight perspective, but the conventional wisdom is that the bed design makes it impossible.
Remember the Ridgeline has a two way tailgate, you can open it like a door and get it half way open when hooked to the Casita, thus giving me access to the trunk in the bed with no problems. For me it works, but I'm sure for some it wouldn't for one reason or another. I hardly ever open my tailgate the conventional way, I don't have to lean over the tailgate to get things in and out of the bed with the door option.

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Now that's something I would like to hear more about! Seems like an ideal match from a size and weight perspective, but the conventional wisdom is that the bed design makes it impossible.
I am sorry, but I have no information. We saw it at Panama City after ScampCamp a year or two ago. I left them with info and I think they have heard of FiberglassRV.
Brilliant hitch design with attachment in front of the trunk lid and reaching back.

Maybe the owner will respond??
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I put my truck’s transmission in tow / haul mode and go
Trying to out guess my vehicles computer or thinking that I am smarter then the engineers that designed my truck is a waste of time and foolish IMHO
I don’t like driving to begin with and making it more complicated by playing with the transmission doesn’t help!

Well, OK, until you start up a long grade and the transmission begins to hunt between 4th and 5th. Back and forth, back and forth. Lots of wear and annoying. Limit it to 4th until you get to the top of the hill.

Then you start down a long grade and it goes into the highest gear. Now it won't hold back as well and the brakes get more use. Limit it to a lower gear and take some load off the brakes.

Then you have to merge at the top of an up-hill ramp. Just when you back off the throttle a bit to squeeze in, it up-shifts twice. Then you try to adjust your speed and bit and have to wait for it to downshift twice to get you some power. If you limited it to 4th, you would have instant throttle response as needed. Then let it decide when you are going with the flow and settled in.

The computer cannot look ahead at the general conditions like you can. No harm in helping it decide in order to save wear, reduce heat, save brakes or increase throttle response.
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Well, OK, until you start up a long grade and the transmission begins to hunt between 4th and 5th. Back and forth, back and forth. Lots of wear and annoying. Limit it to 4th until you get to the top of the hill.

Then you start down a long grade and it goes into the highest gear. Now it won't hold back as well and the brakes get more use. Limit it to a lower gear and take some load off the brakes.

Then you have to merge at the top of an up-hill ramp. Just when you back off the throttle a bit to squeeze in, it up-shifts twice. Then you try to adjust your speed and bit and have to wait for it to downshift twice to get you some power. If you limited it to 4th, you would have instant throttle response as needed. Then let it decide when you are going with the flow and settled in.

The computer cannot look ahead at the general conditions like you can. No harm in helping it decide in order to save wear, reduce heat, save brakes or increase throttle response.
Sounds good on paper
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Sounds good on paper
And in practice.

Most common situation I've run across is long grades with occasional short flats or declines. When you lift your right foot, the transmission thinks the hill is done and upshifts, then has to downshift again a few seconds later when the grade resumes. As the driver, I can easily see it isn't over yet and hold the lower gear.

In any case, my tow vehicle, like many mid-sized SUVs and pickup trucks, does not have a tow/haul mode. It does not have the capability to recognize a downgrade and automatically downshift to control speed. My owner's manual supports locking out OD and manually selecting lower gears under certain conditions.

A blanket statement that the transmission always "knows" the right gear better than the driver overlooks the wide range of tow vehicles in service.
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I put my truck’s transmission in tow / haul mode and go
Trying to out guess my vehicles computer or thinking that I am smarter then the engineers that designed my truck is a waste of time and foolish IMHO
I don’t like driving to begin with and making it more complicated by playing with the transmission doesn’t help!
Big fan of the TOW/Haul mode on my Ford. Only "problem" is to remember to turn it on next time I start the truck (like after gas stops). I find it most useful when going downhill, it does a very nice job controlling speed.

It’s the first TV I have owned with it. Kind of like a backup camera, once you’ve had one you won’t go without.
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Well, OK, until you start up a long grade and the transmission begins to hunt between 4th and 5th. Back and forth, back and forth. Lots of wear and annoying. Limit it to 4th until you get to the top of the hill.

Then you start down a long grade and it goes into the highest gear. Now it won't hold back as well and the brakes get more use. Limit it to a lower gear and take some load off the brakes.

Then you have to merge at the top of an up-hill ramp. Just when you back off the throttle a bit to squeeze in, it up-shifts twice. Then you try to adjust your speed and bit and have to wait for it to downshift twice to get you some power. If you limited it to 4th, you would have instant throttle response as needed. Then let it decide when you are going with the flow and settled in.

The computer cannot look ahead at the general conditions like you can. No harm in helping it decide in order to save wear, reduce heat, save brakes or increase throttle response.
After 45years of buying only manual transmissions, I bought my TC with a 6spd automatic.
I read up on it and was impressed and skeptical at the same time.
It now has 18000 miles on it and it has exceeded my expectations.
It never hunts for a gear in drive, but it will downshift halfway up a steep grade when towing which opens the torque converter momentarily and blips the engine a couple hundred RPM.
In Sport Mode it has a more aggressive shift strategy and a manual shift mode which I use occasionally and unnecessarily to anticipate a coming grade.
It uses engine braking only in manual or Sport Mode.


I anticipate that my 10spd automatic on my new Ranger will be even better (if that's even possible).


There's still a lot that can be done with a stick which an automatic can't match,but the trade-offs are getting more worth it every year.
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