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Old 05-09-2013, 03:30 PM   #29
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Be assured that the Tundra was NOT stock. Without a doubt in my mind it was geared down to a maximum speed of about 3 mph. Therefore if you that as a recommendation for towing never exceed 3 mph.
Not to mention they only actually towed it 100 yards very very slowly and not on a public road! LOL
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:30 PM   #30
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The college where I taught had an orientation class each Fall for all the instructors
Much of the time spent in the orientation class was devoted to "Sexual Harassment "
and "The Newest and Latest PC Words" . Being male and a construction worker by trade
I would slip up every year and be reminded that I lacked sensitivity . After 33 years I still have not developed proper empathy for others . Maybe Floyd could help me be more nuanced in my speech?
AH Ya done went and used tha "N" word!
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:59 PM   #31
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How about we actually use the term that is actually the most commonly and acceptable one used today: "disabled'.
Why is "disabled" more acceptable than "handicapped" ? Seriously? Less serious, how long will it take for "disabled" to be deemed unacceptable?
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Asked and answered...as if it matters now!

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Why is "disabled" more acceptable than "handicapped" ? Seriously? Less serious, how long will it take for "disabled" to be deemed unacceptable?
The origins believed by some for the word Handicapped were mentioned above and the use of the word in describing a disable person implies a stigma that can be taken as extremely offensive. It should be noted though that some scholars dont believe that the term handicapped was in fact derived from the term cap in hand but instead goes back to a centuries old sport involving the trading of personal items.

For example I work with Paralympic skiers - trust me if you know them the image of a beggar on the street with their cap in hand it not something you would come away with - although lobbying for more funds for their sport from our fine government may make some of them feel that way some days

As a result the term handicapped is no longer an acceptable term to use in describing a person with disabilities, just as retarded is no longer acceptable as a term used to describe a person with developmental disabilities, death and dumb is not used to describe a person who is hearing impaired.

The list is long with terms and words that we as a society have evolved enough to know are unacceptable to use.
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Thank you.
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Now I realize what the real cause of the "Global Warming" is, voices heard on internet forums.
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"Now I realize what the real cause of the "Global Warming" is, voices heard on internet forums."

My papa always told me that the good Lord gave us all 2 ears vs. 1 mouth so that we'd listen twice as much as we'd talk.

But...I've got 10 fingers to type with on the internet, vs. 2 eyes to read!

Back to the original question of what downsides there might be in towing "within manufacturers limits":

If one were to be of the mind that manufacturers limits for NA ratings are contrived rather than derived, then, excessive use of finite resources might be be cited as a downside. Remember this whole fiberglass RV movement started with sedans in mind as tow vehicles, not big full sized pick ups or SUVs. If one is of the mind that global warming is at least partially caused by too much fossil fuel consumption, (and not just too much internet dialog!) then if safely used, a smaller more mpg friendly tug would exhibit less emissions downside, especially if one doesn't have to have two vehicles, one for tug use and one for everyday use.

But I'm all for towing safely. If one really needs to "be within" (possibly contrived) NA manufacturer's specified limits in order to tow safely, then I say, stay within the specified limits.
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While the term originally refered to the early english game and the practice of handicapping as used in sports, the application of the word to those that were begging on the streets was a well known use in the mid 1800's in England. Just as we used many words for meanings substantially different from their origins does not make their newer meanings any less correct. Yes, the origin of a word may different, but it's meanings over the years can change.

And while some may have determined that their particular diety did not make certain rules, evolving public standards and the ADA (Adults with Disabilities Act) may have a different take on what is and isn't offensive.

As my late wife spent the last 15 years of her brief life in a wheelchair, and my youngest son James (1982-2009) was autistic, I am very much aware of the unkind words often used to describe disabled and/or developmentally delayed children and adults. They, the victims of these unkind and demeaning words, are the ones asking for these changes, and it's the very least that we, as a society, can do to help those less fortunate. Is that asking to much? One would hope not.
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