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08-19-2012, 11:20 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
Posts: 5,137
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The curbside body is longer on a lot of trailers Tom. Most notable in the boler offspring. It allows for the lowered floor at the door.
Is there a difference in distance further back where the body is straighter at the floor? On the diagram for mine I measured 12" from top of frame to body curbside and 13" streetside.
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08-20-2012, 12:30 AM
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#22
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Senior Member
Name: Russ
Trailer: Scamp 16' side dinette, Airstream Safari 19'
California
Posts: 588
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carol H
Gezzz if I am not mistake you have a 2003 Scamp correct? needs new axle already? seriously? actually just looked at your before photo.... sure doesnt look like the axle was gone... hummmm.
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Carol,
My axle was functioning as new, but with my new wider and taller wheels and tires there was a clearance issue to the fender openings. I needed a different offset wheel or a narrower axle. I went the shorter axle route. I added a spacer between the axle and frame for more height. The Flexiride also is adjustable for height.
Russ
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08-20-2012, 12:38 AM
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#23
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Senior Member
Name: Russ
Trailer: Scamp 16' side dinette, Airstream Safari 19'
California
Posts: 588
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy in TO
Is the Scamp body offset on the frame by an inch like on some trailers ?
Measure from the frame to a point on the wheel well on both sides and compare.
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Mine measures pretty close to symmetrical. I centered the new axle between the frame rails and squared it to the hitch coupler. The stock Scamp axle placement put the tire closer to one side of the body. Whether this was deliberate or just loose tolerances I don't know.
Russ
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08-20-2012, 03:18 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Name: Tom
Trailer: none
Minnesota
Posts: 250
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OK, on mine street-side measures around 3.5 from bottom of upper floor (frame) to molding all the way back to bumper. Curbside measures around 8 by door and tapers to 3.5 back by marker light. So the front wheel well opening really curves under. When i first bought the Scamp thought something was seriously wrong with it as the curbside tire seemed to be more tucked into the opening than streetside. Went with 14 inch tires and definitely had to trim curbside opening more. My axle or body isnt offset to the frame ,as far as I can tell. Russ I would go with the loose tolerance theory
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08-20-2012, 03:24 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Russ, sorry I realized after looking back at all your post that you where just using the need for an axle as an excuse to upgrade the tires.
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09-09-2012, 05:29 PM
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#26
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Senior Member
Name: Russ
Trailer: Scamp 16' side dinette, Airstream Safari 19'
California
Posts: 588
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I finished the axle replacement a couple of weeks ago and it is working as it should. I attached a few more pics of the project. The first shot is the spacer tube welded to the frame. It had to be cantelevered off of the frame to provide welding room on the inside which was blocked by the floor OSB sheathing. The second shot shows a kicker plate which handles the cantelevered loads by transfering the forces up to the side of the main frame member.
Russ
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09-09-2012, 05:41 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Name: Russ
Trailer: Scamp 16' side dinette, Airstream Safari 19'
California
Posts: 588
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More progress shots.
The first pic is of the Flexiride axle splined axle shaft. The second is the adjustable trailing arm spindle. The trailing arm is adjustable for height only, not width, as there is a groove that mates with the pinch bolt making the width non-variable. The third pic is the axle tube mounted under the trailer before the new brakes and hubs were installed. The axle was bolted to the spacer tubes with 1/2" grade 8 flange head bolts and locking nuts. The original Scamp axle was welded to the floor supports to help support the center of the floor. I fabbed a bolt together strut to serve the same purpose, but be removable with the axle.
Russ
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09-09-2012, 05:53 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Russ
Trailer: Scamp 16' side dinette, Airstream Safari 19'
California
Posts: 588
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More project shots.
The first shows the axle under the trailer with the floor support strut in place. The second pic is the trailer and TV in a supermarket parking lot with the new axle, wheels and tires. The third was taken on her first outing to Carlsbad State Beach Campground.
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09-09-2012, 06:15 PM
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#29
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Senior Member
Name: Russ
Trailer: Scamp 16' side dinette, Airstream Safari 19'
California
Posts: 588
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This tuesday we'll be heading to Moab Utah to play with the Jeep on the unbelievably beautiful terrain. We will stay one night in Zion on the way, and possibly another in Bryce or Capitol Reef. I will check the lugnuts every hundred miles at first, and check hub temps, tire pressures, etc. The new axle rides nice, and the new brakes were numb at first, but are gripping better after just 30 miles of use.
Russ
It's margarita time at Margaritaville! Carlsbad State Beach, first outing.
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09-09-2012, 06:16 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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Have a ton of fun! Safe travels
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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09-09-2012, 06:21 PM
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#31
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Senior Member
Name: Russ
Trailer: Scamp 16' side dinette, Airstream Safari 19'
California
Posts: 588
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Thanks Donna!
We are looking forward to this trip.
Russ
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09-09-2012, 06:28 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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and you'll post pictures of your trip too when you get back... won't you
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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10-12-2012, 05:31 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 4500
Posts: 2,050
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If you don't mind me asking what is the cost of a new axle? I have a 19' fifth wheel that someone weilded an old leaf spring axle to. I'd like to get it back to original asap.
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10-12-2012, 06:28 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Name: Tom
Trailer: none
Minnesota
Posts: 250
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Steve,
I was quoted 430.00 yesterday for a 3500# dexrel axle, hubs, and brakes.
That was out the dealers door but not installed
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10-12-2012, 08:06 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 4500
Posts: 2,050
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Hmmmm, can the drexel be welded? I put everything on hold when I saw the butcher job leaf spring axle on my rig. Can't believe I didn't notice it prior. I did drive about 5k miles with it and didn't notice anything.
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10-13-2012, 11:28 AM
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#36
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Senior Member
Name: Tom
Trailer: none
Minnesota
Posts: 250
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on Scamps original axle is welded right to frame, but you might want to get if going with a drexel, is the side bolt plate which you weld to frame then axle is bolted to that http://united-trailers.com/Uploads/Manuals/Manual_6.pdf
Think about page 55 shows the axle
But if leaf springs are working out maybe you dont want to change
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10-13-2012, 11:35 AM
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#37
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Senior Member
Name: Harvey
Trailer: '84 Scamp 13' & 2001 Casita 17' Spirit Deluxe
Arkansas
Posts: 322
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hambone
Steve,
I was quoted 430.00 yesterday for a 3500# dexrel axle, hubs, and brakes.
That was out the dealers door but not installed
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Hammel
Hmmmm, can the drexel be welded? I put everything on hold when I saw the butcher job leaf spring axle on my rig. Can't believe I didn't notice it prior. I did drive about 5k miles with it and didn't notice anything.
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The $430 sounds about right for a Dexter axle (dexrel is a new one on me??). You can weld the Dexter mounting brackets to your trailer chassis but a much better solution is to weld a 'mounting kit' to the chassis & bolt the new axle to that. The kit is only a few bucks (think less'n $30) & well worth it for any future replacement/maintenance of the axle.
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10-13-2012, 01:34 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2018, 21ft escape— 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie
NW Wisconsin
Posts: 4,500
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I had Scamp install a complete new axle with a 3 " lift on my 16 FTer . Cost was $600.00 installed and they installed the brackets so the axle is now a bolt on axle (Cost as of 4-15-2012)
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10-13-2012, 02:39 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 4500
Posts: 2,050
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If only I lived as close to Scamp, LOL!
Actually I bought this thing really cheap ($2500) and it was kind of a pit, has mold smell, fridge not working properly, converter/charger in pieces, tires were shot, finish is poor, etc, etc. I was planning a nice solar system with dual batteries, new fridge, new electronics, paint, interior mods, etc, etc. A new axle at this point was not in the budget. I might go ahead with the original plan and wory about the axle at a later date.
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