looking at new TV Ford 2019 Ranger

[Glenn Baglo]

Originally Posted by floyd

Oddly enough we were not allowed to bring our oil from home to the refinery where I worked. They processed 250,000 barrels of crude oil per day but the EPA would not allow the refinery to accept and process a few gallons more from home, like we did for all the drain oil from equipment within the plant.

I took stale gas to the recycling centre and you have to leave the gas and the container. Made no sense to me.
Gas kills bamboo.

[David Tilston]

So, configuring a Ranger on the Canadian site, a few observations:
Only 4 wheel drive is available for all models.
Only 2.3L EcoBoost available for all models.
Trailer tow package actually includes a class IV hitch receiver
Trailer tow package does not include a transmission cooler. (brake controller?)
Lariat only as a SuperCrew, (four door)
Only XL available as SuperCab
XL only has black as an interior colour. XLT and Lariat add "Medium Stone".
Black vinyl floor not available on Lariat
White Plantimum, (that is actually how they spell it) only on Lariat. Additional $550.
17-Inch Magnetic-Painted Aluminum Wheels, black, available on Lariat.

[floyd]

Originally Posted by David Tilston

So, configuring a Ranger on the Canadian site, a few observations:
Only 4 wheel drive is available for all models.
Only 2.3L EcoBoost available for all models.
Trailer tow package actually includes a class IV hitch receiver
Trailer tow package does not include a transmission cooler. (brake controller?)
Lariat only as a SuperCrew, (four door)
Only XL available as SuperCab
XL only has black as an interior colour. XLT and Lariat add "Medium Stone".
Black vinyl floor not available on Lariat
White Plantimum, (that is actually how they spell it) only on Lariat. Additional $550.
17-Inch Magnetic-Painted Aluminum Wheels, black, available on Lariat.

I would not have purchased if I had to buy 4WD.
The one I saw the other day had an open rearend with 4WD(go Figger)
The trans does not require a cooler even on my TC.
The in dash brake controller is a dealer installed item $$$$.
All levels available here in both 2/4WD and Supercab and Supercrew.
Both interior colors on all levels, Leather on Lariat, entry quality on XL except STX. and premium cloth on XLT & STX, Vinyl floor on Sport and STX only.

[David Tilston]

Ummm...... I just spent way too much time comparing US and Canadian models / deals.
I compared three versions. All amounts are in Canadian $, (US $ x 1.36)

Base: includes block heater, and locking differential. No other adders.
2WD on US version 4WD on Canadian
US: $35,354 Canadian: $33,369 - Canadians get paid $2000 to get 4WD?

Preferred: XLT with my preferred options. Totally arbitrary. Still 2WD on US version, also FX4 off road package on only the Canadian version, (no reason for this on a 2WD).
US: $43,132 Canadian: $41,489

Loaded: Lariat, 4WD, SuperCrew, Leather, anything that would add any value to me. No running boards, or SecuriCode™ Keyless entry
US: $59,534 Canadian: $49,909 Almost $10,000 CDN $ less in Canada?

[Mike Magee]

Originally Posted by Glenn Baglo

I took stale gas to the recycling centre and you have to leave the gas and the container. Made no sense to me.
Gas kills bamboo.

Thanks, good to know that, considering how bamboo spreads once established.

[floyd]

Originally Posted by David Tilston

Ummm...... I just spent way too much time comparing US and Canadian models / deals.
I compared three versions. All amounts are in Canadian $, (US $ x 1.36)

Base: includes block heater, and locking differential no other adders.
2WD on US version 4WD on Canadian
US: $35,354 Canadian: $33,369 - Canadians get paid $2000 to get 4WD

Preferred: XLT with my preferred options. Totally arbitrary. Still 2WD on US version.
US: $43,1324 Canadian: $38,069

Loaded: Lariat, 4WD, SuperCrew, Leather, anything that would add any value to me. No running boards, or SecuriCode™ Keyless-Entry
US: $59,534 Canadian: $49,909 Almost $10,000 less in Canada?

All USD $ ...An FX4 Lariat Crewcab with every single option is under 45,000 in the US. A absolute base XL with no options is 24,500 in the US.
Canada PAYS you to buy the government's preference?? Is that why you compared 2WD US to 4WD Canadian?

[David Tilston]

Originally Posted by floyd

All US $ ...An FX4 Lariat Crewcab with every single option is under 45,000 in the US. A absolute base XL with no options is 24,500 in the US.
Canada PAYS you to buy the government's preference?? Is that why you compared 2WD US to 4WD Canadian?

Your numbers are the same as mine, just in US $, (CDN $ / 1.36).
$45,000 US $ x 1.36 = $61,200 CDN $
$24,000 US $ x 1.36 = $32.640 CDN $

Thinking in the Canadian Peso hurts me too.

The goal on the base version was the minimum I would not regret. 2WD, with a locking differential would have been preferred over 4WD, so that is what I configured on the US version. The block heater is standard on the Canadian version, and a good idea here.

I am sure I am not exactly comparing apples to apples, but as close as I can. I am just not used to Canadians paying less. Do you think Canada subsidizes the 4WD?

[floyd]

Originally Posted by David Tilston

Your numbers are the same as mine, just in US $, (CDN $ / 1.36).
$45,000 US $ x 1.36 = $61,200 CDN $
$24,000 US $ x 1.36 = $32.640 CDN $

Thinking in the Canadian Peso hurts me too.

The goal on the base version was the minimum I would not regret. 2WD, with a locking differential would have been preferred over 4WD, so that is what I configured on the US version. The block heater is standard on the Canadian version, and a good idea here.

I am sure I am not exactly comparing apples to apples, but as close as I can. I am just not used to Canadians paying less. Do you think Canada subsidizes the 4WD?

I had no reason to think of any subsidy except that I may have misread where you said...
"Canadians get paid $2000 dollars to get 4WD"





The locker is push button engaged and disengages at 20MPH

It is about $420 US and it is not clear whether it is limited slip when not engaged. It may well be though since the code is X73.
Code 73 is limited slip and code 71 is open.
Oddly the one I drove was 4WD with a code 71 Dana Rearend (no locker)

[David Tilston]

Originally Posted by floyd

I had no reason to think of any subsidy except that I may have misread where you said...
"Canadians get paid $2000 dollars to get 4WD"

Yah, upon review, not real clear. I should have said, "Ford is paying us $2000 to take 4WD".


Seems fair.

[Alf S.]

Hi: All... I repeat this... one of the wrenches you need to change the oil is a lug nut wrench!!! You need it to remove the front wheel to get the filter out!!! This is hearsay... but I repeat it here!!!
Alf S. North shore of Lake Erie

[floyd]

Originally Posted by Alf S.

Hi: All... I repeat this... one of the wrenches you need to change the oil is a lug nut wrench!!! You need it to remove the front wheel to get the filter out!!! This is hearsay... but I repeat it here!!!
Alf S. North shore of Lake Erie

Good news... It comes with one!
Bad news...There are six lug nuts!


If it turns out to be needed I'll probably just use the appropriate sized socket, and spend the extra two minutes.
Fact is I usually use oil change time to check everything and wipe down some steel and aluminum parts with blaster to prevent corrosion anyway.

[minke]

Originally Posted by floyd

Good news... It comes with one!
Bad news...There are six lug nuts!


If it turns out to be needed I'll probably just use the appropriate sized socket, and spend the extra two minutes.
Fact is I usually use oil change time to check everything and wipe down some steel and aluminum parts with blaster to prevent corrosion anyway.

When I climb underneath I like to spray rubber parts with silicone hoping that it will extend their lives.

[Radar1]

I wish the engineers would work to ensure oil filters are easy to get to. I am now spoiled by the ease of removing the filter on our V-6 Dodge Durango with the Pentastar engine. It has the filter at the top front of the engine and the cover is removed with the same socket I use for the water heater plug on our Scamp. It just lifts up, spilling no oil anywhere, and then place the new filter inside the cavity.
I also added a Fumoto valve to the drain plug and can now drain the sump with a flip of the switch.
Sure made it easier to change the oil and filter twice on our 10,000 mile trip last year.

[Radar1]

Originally Posted by floyd

I'm trying to figure out how to time delivery for when I get back from our Florida trip. I'll bet there will be plenty to see at dealers between here and Florida on the way down later this month.

I was hoping you could pick it up before your Florida trip so we could all admire it in Sebring! Dealers in GA show several dealer ordered versions already, not sure if they are still in transit or already here.
I like that Saber color, surprised it ups the price more than $2,000 at the click of the color button, although that does include some extra package items.

[Radar1]

A video towing comparison of the Ranger vs Tacoma on the "Ike challenge". Looks like cowboy hats fit better in the Ranger.
https://www.tfltruck.com/2019/01/201...e-truck-video/

[floyd]

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Originally Posted by Radar1

I wish the engineers would work to ensure oil filters are easy to get to. I am now spoiled by the ease of removing the filter on our V-6 Dodge Durango with the Pentastar engine. It has the filter at the top front of the engine and the cover is removed with the same socket I use for the water heater plug on our Scamp. It just lifts up, spilling no oil anywhere, and then place the new filter inside the cavity.
I also added a Fumoto valve to the drain plug and can now drain the sump with a flip of the switch.
Sure made it easier to change the oil and filter twice on our 10,000 mile trip last year.

Oil filter was optional on my 1952 Ford V8, but it was above the engine.in a can as well, but you had to drain, clean and put fresh oil in the air filter too... OH! and Cap, rotor, points and plugs about every 5000miles, tires every 10, Brakes and exhaust every 20, new car every 100.


I really think that is one of the reasons people used to love their cars so much.... It was like having a dependent pet!


It too cost about 6MO salary in 1952.
I loved that car!

[Jim Bennett]

Originally Posted by ZachO

Used to be you could take it to any oil change place and they'd take it. Then a few years ago they all stopped for some reason. I bring mine to the recycling area at the local landfill transfer station.

We can do that too, or take it to any fire station in town. Like at the dump, you can take any paint or chemical waste where it is stored until they have enough to take it to recycling.

[Radar1]

Originally Posted by gordon2

And you will need your lug wrench to change the oil....

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/01/04/...wheel-removal/

Not THAT big a deal, but it does make me appreciate how easy it is to change the oil and filter on the Sienna.

According to the Truth about cars website, Ford has come out saying that the tire does NOT need to be removed to change the oil filter.

[ZachO]

I'm pretty sure my truck manual says to remove the tire to get at the filter. I've never needed to.

[ATHiker]

Looking at the photo of the front of the Ranger and Tacoma, it's clear that Ford borrowed styling cues from Toyota, which is a bit of a turn around....