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Old 05-03-2012, 08:39 PM   #15
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:45 PM   #16
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Well, I've said... it is what it is. I don't camp every day or every week or even every month. I plan my trips and budget accordingly. Fuel and site costs are part of that budget. I don't typically consider food, because I eat every day and often don't eat anything different when camping.

But, what I do get out of taking my Scamp out... is priceless. I KNOW it wouldn't be any cheaper to motel it (gag) and the memories I'm making are worth it to me. YMMV

Slow down? And smell the roses. It's not just the destination, but the journey as well.
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Old 05-03-2012, 09:02 PM   #17
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Any possibility that it could be bearings or brakes on the trailer?
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:50 PM   #18
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Any possibility that it could be bearings or brakes on the trailer?
I was thinking the same thing.
After you've driven a few miles feel the trailer hubs. They should be cool, or very close.

If they're hot have things checked out.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:04 PM   #19
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A couple of years ago I figured an average of the MPG numbers posted on the yahoo scampers group. Seems to me that for a 13' egg it was pretty common to see numbers around 15 to 17 mpg. A few rare people get 20+ but I think it is "luck of the draw" with their tow vehicles. Some people got less than 15, too.

Let's compare gas costs for a 2000 mile vacation. At $4/gallon, a rig getting 13 mpg takes $615 and one getting 20 mpg takes $400. My philosophy is that a couple hundred bucks is not going to break the bank or stop me from enjoying my travels. If money were that tight I would not have bought the trailer to begin with. I just put it out of my mind and go.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:11 PM   #20
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A couple of years ago I figured an average of the MPG numbers posted on the yahoo scampers group. Seems to me that for a 13' egg it was pretty common to see numbers around 15 to 17 mpg. A few rare people get 20+ but I think it is "luck of the draw" with their tow vehicles. Some people got less than 15, too.

Let's compare gas costs for a 2000 mile vacation. At $4/gallon, a rig getting 13 mpg takes $615 and one getting 20 mpg takes $400. My philosophy is that a couple hundred bucks is not going to break the bank or stop me from enjoying my travels. If money were that tight I would not have bought the trailer to begin with. I just put it out of my mind and go.
Both are way cheaper than a hotel, air fare, going out to eat every day and a rental car.

Oh, and one doesn't risk returning with "critters" like bedbugs.
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:10 AM   #21
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When we towed a car behind our motorhome it had little effect on motorhome mileage, much like your utility trailer. When the thing being towed has a frontal area smaller than the frontal area of the tow vehicle it has much less of an effect on mileage.

Outside of towing a popup, it is unlikely you'll find a more aerodynamic trailer than a Boler. We had a stick built trailer that weighed less than our Scamp and was a 1/2 foot shorter, yet towing the stick built resulted in 10% less mpgs. 22-23 mpg with the Scamp 16 versus 20 with the Sunline 15.5.

Definitely you don't want to base your decision on one trip.

As to the cost of fuel if you're a weekend traveler the cost is less significant; you don't go out every week and you don't drive a couple of 1000 miles when you do. For people who travel continuously and are retired, an additional $200 a month is significant.

Of course everything has a price. I will say being on the road is about as good as it gets, there's the everyday stimulation of so much new and wonderful. I find it supremely relaxing to be traveling, equally important it provides the opportunity to think about new things because you're not burdened by the everyday of life. This week it's been stirling engines, Satsop Nuclear Plant and Elma, WA. Every where we go there's something new, it helps keep us vital.

RVing is in a sense an escape to a Brigadoon opportunity... it's not free but fun.
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:52 AM   #22
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Well said Norm & Ginny! My Dad always said "Getting there is half the fun!"

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Old 05-04-2012, 10:54 AM   #23
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Yeah, that's the attitude I need to have about it. Just starting out, I can't fully know the joy having this home-on-wheels can bring. I'm sure the added price on every mile will be worth it ultimately.

Our reluctance comes only after considering the vast distance we'll be traveling. The plan is to circumnavigate North America throughout the summer. The added cost of bringing the Boler could probably go well over an extra $1000.

Then again, as others have mentioned, the cost of not bringing it, relying on other accommodations every step of the way, may be greater, and certainly not as much fun.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:03 AM   #24
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There are not many trailers lighter than a 1300 and wind resistance is not any greater than most other trailers either. I think your fuel economy is rather normal. I have a 1700 and tow with a V6 1/2 ton pickup that normally gets 25 mpg highway cruising at 60 when not towing. Towing mileage at 55-60 drops to a measly 12-15 mpg. I am a cheepskate and I FEEL every drop of gas I burn. I am a weekend camper with a two week holiday thrown in as well so I have accepted the costs in the short term. I would like to do some longer trips someday so I am saving for a new (to me) tow vehicle with a diesel engine. This could save me some money on fuel over the long haul. The economics of diesel would not be so good with a new vehicle on relatively short trips. I think the reason I get such poor mileage is that the towing weight is right at towing capacity of the pickup. Also the small block V6 4.3l has only 260 foot pounds of torque and to get that the engine needs to be at 2800 rpm. I have to tow in 4th gear because overdrive will not allow the engine to turn over any faster than 2000 rpm. There is little torque at 2000rpm. In 4th gear I have to get the engine up to 3000 rpm in order to cruise at 60 mph. Not a very efficient setup but it will do for now.
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we were traveling with my sister and hubby, they have a Boler and we have a Bigfoot,both 13'. We both have 4runners. they put a 1/4" plastic wind screen on the top of their TV. It looked like the one in the graph showing wind deflection. they ran it in place for a couple of weeks of driving. comparing our mpg to theirs, (we were together) they were getting, about 5 mpg less than us. fill up after fill up. We assumed it must be the angle was incorrect. How would we know. He finally removed it. His mpg was then equal to ours. ???? all in all we were getting about 18mpg in a 2 month trip.

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Old 05-04-2012, 11:27 AM   #26
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Michael,

We're on an 11 month clockwise loop of the USA beginning in NH last November, just reached WA and about 2/3rds to 3/4s done.

As a measure of the cost of our trip we have spent $2,300 for gas, averaging $92 a week driving about 570 miles a week, that includes both tow miles and exploring miles.

Over our 11 months I'm projecting we'll spend about $4,000 for fuel.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:41 AM   #27
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We just took our new Boler on her maiden voyage and were shocked to see the MPG meter on our '05 Caravan reading 11-15, where it would normally be 24-27.
I am surprised too that it is that low. As a comparision we got (long term averages)
26 -27 with a Nissan Mini Van solo,
19 -20 towing a 2,000lb Coleman Pop Up, and
16 MPG towing the dual axle Airstream.

Note Imperial gals. Towing at 60MPH.
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Yeah, that's the attitude I need to have about it. Just starting out, I can't fully know the joy having this home-on-wheels can bring. I'm sure the added price on every mile will be worth it ultimately.

Our reluctance comes only after considering the vast distance we'll be traveling. The plan is to circumnavigate North America throughout the summer. The added cost of bringing the Boler could probably go well over an extra $1000.

Then again, as others have mentioned, the cost of not bringing it, relying on other accommodations every step of the way, may be greater, and certainly not as much fun.
That is a larger distance than the typical vacation one hears of, so I can appreciate your desire to keep mpg's high. A popup could gain you a little, or a tent would save a lot. Those are the only other options I can think of. But the setup and teardown is so much less with an egg, I'm sure that over the course of such a long vacation you'll really appreciate having it.
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