My next vehicle - Fiberglass RV


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Old 01-23-2003, 05:28 PM   #1
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My next vehicle

Jana,

Everyday considerations for next vehicle: Good gas mileage, low repair history, good saftey record, refined appointments. (I don't want it to look like a work vehicle.)

Tow vehicle considerations: Enough power to pull effortlessly, enough ballast to stop efficiently, enough back area space to haul a bicycle on the interior of the vehicle. I don't care what happens to the knees of anyone in the rear seats. An SUV is preferred but a truck is OK if its not a monster.

The trailer weighs roughly 2000 pounds and has 4000 pounds axle capacity. It is most unlikely that it will ever be weighted to exceed 3000 pounds. The previous owners traveled with loaded tanks and 4 persons and all their gear and didn't exceed 3,000 pounds.

If I had my druthers and it could be done safely, I'd be perfectly happy towing with a Mini-Cooper. I'm a SINK (Single Income NO Kids) person. I do not want a vehicle that even looks like it might accomodate me if I, in an irrational moment, took a notion to haul children. The last vehicle I seriously considered buying was a Ford Mustang convertible - no trunk space or other passenger considerations at all.

The trailer is more than I was looking for but the availability and price presented an opportunity that I decided not to let pass me by. Honestly, I was just going to take a look at it to see what a Fiber Stream looked like when my shopping gene kicked in. The Morse's, the sellers, live 9 miles down the road, no turns, from my grandmother.

The Chinook is OK because it is not an everyday vehicle. Whatever tows the tt has to be an everyday vehicle.

Is this the list you had in mind?
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Old 01-23-2003, 05:39 PM   #2
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moed over here

Mary will be so proud of you Benita. I always get off subject, and don't think about it. I'll try to do better.

That is exacty what I was talking about on the wants. whats a Mini-Cooper?
I'm hoping people will come tell us how theirs fits here or here on your list so we can find direction.
example. my Escape. drop the back seats and you have room to spare. high rating on safety. lowest was front corner hit, so I added a brush guard. talked to two people who had wrecks and each had a guard and very little damage to Escape and none to self. Now we will see what others have to say.
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Old 01-23-2003, 05:47 PM   #3
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Mini - The smallest car in America?

BMW is distributing these in the US. It is a retro-60s car. Think glorified golf cart. The original is rumored to be the source of the name - mini as in mini-skirt.

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1.6L 115 hp I4
1.6L 163 hp I4

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5-Speed Manual Overdrive
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Old 01-23-2003, 06:07 PM   #4
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Mini-Cooper

:banana I'm with you, Benita. I love those cars. We kind of discussed them in another thread the first part of December. Here's part of what I said:

...and the mini Cooper. But, alas, not willing to give up my Fiberglass for one yet.

Maybe I could just strap one onto the side of my Trailer like some people do there boats''


If you figure out a way to have both, let me know, okay? BTW, I want one with a sunroof. Got to have a sunroof for my dog.:yep
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Old 01-23-2003, 06:20 PM   #5
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:o Suz :o you were supose to tell us if your vehicle met any of Benitas wish list items. Well, If you want to that is.
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Old 01-23-2003, 06:33 PM   #6
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Okay

Sorry, the mini Cooper won't tow anything. I have an Envoy. It has a six, but it is a straight six w/270 HP. They do not recommend a WDH until you hit 4,000 lbs. You can get a higher rating with a different trans/axle ratio, but not necessary. It drives and tows like a dream. Drives more like a sports car than an SUV. You can deck it out as far as you want to go. Same platform, different interior and exterior, is a Trail Blazer which, I believe has a lower MSRP. They are fun and easy to drive and handle.

I was at the GM dealer today getting my oil changed and saw a Rendevous. They are nice on the inside. Don't know about towing with them, but maybe we can get some feedback on it.

I think something you might also want to consider, Benita, is the length of your tow vehicle. That is also a very important factor.
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Old 01-23-2003, 06:55 PM   #7
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Mini Austin

I just have to tell you I owned a 1960 Austin Mini brand new in London,
it was chartreuse,what was I thinking? It was the most fun vehicle you could own!
Thats it :wave
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Old 01-23-2003, 06:59 PM   #8
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Benita------I tow with a GMC sonoma 4.3 liter motor.The weights you mentioned are a little lower than my Boler.I am able to pull and STOP with ease.I think with double axle you could pull better with my type vehical.:)
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Old 01-23-2003, 07:47 PM   #9
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all right!!

Benita, we now have two to look at and compare. throw in the Rendevous and we have three. but isn't that sonoma a pickup? maybe they make car types, I'm not sure.
need to go to http://www.edmunds.com/ (I spelled it wrong before) and compare them. size, price, engines and what
are you haveing fun, Benita? I am. :wave
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Old 01-23-2003, 11:37 PM   #10
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Jana,

I think the Envoy, Trailblazer and Sonoma are all on the same platform. Although none of them are as economical as I wanted to go, they are on the short list along with the Blazer and Jimmy, two vehicles that are being obsoleted (I think.) Others non-GM on the list include: Isuzu Axiom, Dodge Dakota or Durango. :conf

Well, Rome wasn't built in a day. It will be a while before a tow vehicle materializes. I'll have time to think about it.
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Old 01-24-2003, 08:20 AM   #11
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I'm just thinking out loud here. This is based on a little knowledge and some logic thrown in. Could be wrong, but this is kinda how I see it.

I think once you get it narrowed down, driving them will give you the answer you're looking for. The Sonoma/S-10 is on the old Blazer/Jimmy Platform...at least I always beleived it was. The Envoy and Trail Blazer are totally different than the old ones.

I didn't realize that the Axiom would allow 4k lbs. I think that sounds very promising, just not sure of the weight/wheelbase of the vehicle itself.

Many things will work, but your statement about being able to tow with ease, raises the category a tad. I think the closer you are to your limit, the more you will realize it is back there. I would also think that the more it strains (higher RPM to pull) the lower your gas mileage will be while towing which would offset much of the savings during regular driving.

Something else to consider: the area you live in is anything but flat. If you decide to go north...even only as far as the north Georgia mountains...you'll want some power. You don't need overkill that will always give you bad gas mileage, but I think a good mid-size will do the trick and allow you have the amenities you would like, so when you're not towing, you won't feel like your in a truck.

Cars are as personal as RVs. You'll get as many opinions as there are vehicles. I think you are doing it the right way. Finding what can do the trick, then finding what you want from there.

Like with your trailer: someday the right one will come along for you and you will know it.
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To each his own, I guess. Personally, I *like* the feeing that I'm "in a truck." I like the high vantage point, the solidity, and the room. I particularly like the terrific brakes on my truck. I tow with a Ford F150 with a king cab and a capped 8' bed and that's a LOT of room. Can't say I am happy with the gas mileage, but you can't have everything, sadly. Other needs have to go into the equation for each of us. I also hunt, so my 8' bed gives me plenty room for birddogs (and don't they love it!) and gear. And the 4WD has gotten me out of plenty of tight spots. It fits my needs just fine.
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Old 01-24-2003, 09:47 AM   #13
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I like this:
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For Robert:
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Old 01-24-2003, 10:03 AM   #14
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Tow vehicle

Benita,

If you don't want a large truck, look at the Ford Sport Trac. Bernice likes it because she can see everything around her easy, has lots of room inside and a small truck bed. The four doors and back seat really comes in handy for trips to the store or friends. Ours has all options including leather, sunroof, 6 disc CD, automatic, and all power. It comes standard with a large V6 and setup to tow 350 lbs hitch weight on the bumper and 3500 trailer weight. With a frame hitch the towing goes up to 5300 lbs trailer weight and hitch weight according to the hitch used. It has a standard 4 prong electrical plug which is OK for most trailers.

We looked at everything and this came the closest to our needs and wants.

Ron and Bernice <img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3e316360c3022airplane.gif/>
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