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Old 09-27-2014, 12:07 PM   #1
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We just bought our 13' Scamp which was completely gutted. We are planning to remove the shell to have the frame taken in and have the tongue repaired due to PO-caused damage. While we are at it, we will have it checked...but, we are considering replacing the axle... We think it may be a 1980s model - it's a long story - but we are concerned about the height if we put a new axle on it... right now it fits nicely in our garage. That said, I have a few questions: 1) What do we get? 2) Who do we get it from? Scamp or Dexter? 3) How does one order it? I didn't see a place online for either Scamp or Dexter.... I just want to make sure we use the time with the egg off wisely!

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Old 09-27-2014, 12:22 PM   #2
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Don't know where in Colorado you're located. But, there's a Redneck Trailer Supply dealer in your state. Redneck Trailer Supplies - 20 National Branch Locations Redneck, different locals, have been used by members over the years.
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Old 09-27-2014, 12:38 PM   #3
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Removing a Scamp frame is quite a task since is screwed to the floor in quite a few places and the frame is glassed to the shell on either side of the door. You might want to just pull out the front upper floor section to do your frame repair.
Your replacement axle will be a #9 Dexter. Redneck trailer is a distributor for Dexter and they have a branch in your state. If you pick up the axle from them you usually pay no shipping. You will have to provide all the specs for the axle to be built by. You can specify the swing arm angle to sit low if the is what you desire.
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Old 09-27-2014, 12:54 PM   #4
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If your Scamp "Fits Nicely" with a standard 7' door opening I would guess that your current axle is collapsed from old age and, you are right, a new axle will raise it somewhat. This is an oft discussed problem, that of fitting Scamps in garages and the most popular answer, that doesn't involve structural work to the garage, is to substitute smaller wheel when parking/storing. Fortunately there are a number of 8" wheels used on Tent Trailers that can be used on Scamps to drop the trailer a few inches.

Look in the back posts with the search function using the word "Garage" and you should see several discussions and solutions.
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Old 09-27-2014, 01:26 PM   #5
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I really liked the Flexiride axle that we had installed on our 13' Scamp, as it gave me the opportunity to adjust the height of the lift anytime I desired (when off-roading esp.) A local trailer specialty shop did the install.
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Old 09-27-2014, 08:56 PM   #6
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Thanks all for the advice. We sorta figured it would need to be replaced... Now THAT said, what is a ball park figure for the cost of the parts?
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Old 09-27-2014, 09:01 PM   #7
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And...what are the original specs? I can measure the frame, but what should the down angle be? Also, the arm on there now is aimed forward. Do we need to change it to a trailing arm?
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If you are lucky there will be a metal tag attached to your axle. If you have a square tube axle provide the info. to Dexter and they can give you all the orig. specs. If not Dexter and/or dealers provide info. on measuring your new axle. A new axle will cost $300-600 depending on options for axle alone W/O shipping or inst. If you change lug patterns then figure new wheels. Front/rear mounting either way works but it's usually easier to go with what you have. If you do go with a forward facing configuration your brakes will have to be swapped.
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Old 09-27-2014, 09:34 PM   #9
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Eddie...with our luck, there probably won't be a tag, but we will check. There are no brakes on the unit at all. It's just a little 13'... is that something we should have? I assume we should also replace hubs as well?
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Old 09-27-2014, 09:42 PM   #10
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New axle question

I would absolutely add brakes when swapping the axle. Pretty much all small and midsize TVs (and some states) require them now, even for a 13'er. Axle will last maybe 20 years. Pretty likely you or another future owner will want them before then.
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Most people want brakes and they are cheaper to order with a new axle than to add later. Tow vehicles are much smaller than they were in the 80's and a lot of cars specify brakes on trailers over 1000 lbs.
When you order your new axle you specify the bolt pattern you want. You most likely have a 4x4 pattern. A lot of people change over to 5X4.5 pattern because of a better selection of wheels.
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Old 09-28-2014, 08:51 AM   #12
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Although Colorado has a very high requirement for trailer brakes (3000 lbs.) many, if not most states have a requirement that those weighing 1500 lbs. or more have brakes. Although the factory weight for a 13' Scamp is substantially under that figure, actual weights are somewhat higher, usually well over 1500 lbs.

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Bottom line: Get brakes with your new axle. And don't forget a break-away safety switch.
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There are no brakes on the unit at all. It's just a little 13'... is that something we should have?
Should, depends on your tow vehicle. My Ranger stops better towing a trailer with electric brakes than it does on it's own. Given your location, I assume you will hit a few more hills than others. Brakes are handy.
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Even with a 13' you will notice the difference having brakes. Adding brakes to the trailer is in the long run is cheaper than replacing the brakes on your tug far more frequently due to towing a trailer without them.

Not to mention most smaller tugs these days require brakes on a trailer if its over x so many pounds - often 1000 or 1500lbs which most Scamp 13's are .... so just having the axle with the flange on it that allows brakes to be added will add to the resale value of your trailer.

Its a win win situation.
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