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04-06-2018, 08:02 AM
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#81
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Senior Member
Name: Adrian
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0TA
Manitoba
Posts: 428
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn Baglo
At some point the cab will have grown so large and the box so small that it will no longer be a truck, but an SUV.
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Glenn my son had one of those, an Explorer with the back cut off and a four foot bed in its place, yes four foot long only. The most useless gas guzzling thing, he got it through family, and soon got rid of it.
Adrian
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04-06-2018, 08:04 AM
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#82
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Senior Member
Name: Adrian
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0TA
Manitoba
Posts: 428
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Magee
The side view of the new Ranger reminds me of the old Explorer Sport Trac. They had a short box like that.
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Mike I missed your post that's just what I was referring to.
Adrian
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04-06-2018, 12:53 PM
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#83
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: Escape 21, behind an '02 F250 7.3 diesel tug
Mid Left Coast
Posts: 2,941
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the other thing is, those full 4-door pickups have less payload capacity. for instance, my 2008 tacoma 4x4 access cab has 1200 lb payload, the same truck in double cab has 1000 lb payload. add 4 adult passengers, and even the tongue weight of a modest trailer will likely put you over the top.
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04-06-2018, 03:36 PM
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#84
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
Posts: 5,156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve dunham
My Ram Quad Cab has a 6 ft 4" box . I wish it had the 8 ft box .
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My truck has a eight foot box, and 4 x 8 sheets of plywood fit in it very nicely, laying flat...
Except my truck is not a truck, and the 4 x 8 plus cargo area is fully enclosed.
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04-06-2018, 04:26 PM
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#85
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
Trailer: Scamp
Colorado
Posts: 108
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Funny that you would mention the Sport trac I thought the same thing when I looked at it at the car show and again earlier today when I passed a sport Trac in traffic.
The bed seems shorter than the Chevy Colorado short bed that I looked at but maybe it is an optical illusion.
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04-06-2018, 05:07 PM
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#86
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Senior Member
Name: Adrian
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0TA
Manitoba
Posts: 428
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gordon2
My truck has a eight foot box, and 4 x 8 sheets of plywood fit in it very nicely, laying flat...
Except my truck is not a truck, and the 4 x 8 plus cargo area is fully enclosed.
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And you have to vacuum it out after unloading right?
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04-06-2018, 05:52 PM
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#87
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
Posts: 5,156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emers382
And you have to vacuum it out after unloading right?
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Don't have to with plywood, but straw bales.. well, I will have to admit that I sometimes wish it was a pick-up that I could just hose off.
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04-06-2018, 06:53 PM
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#88
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,963
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My 1-1/4 ton, 8-passenger crew cab truck has a 4x8 open bed. For the record I can hose it out or sweep it out.
Best part is when I only have the crew, I only take the cab.
Thanks to the miracle of articulation, the entire rig has the same turning radius as a 2011 Honda Pilot.
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04-06-2018, 07:38 PM
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#89
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_fixer
Funny that you would mention the Sport trac I thought the same thing when I looked at it at the car show and again earlier today when I passed a sport Trac in traffic.
The bed seems shorter than the Chevy Colorado short bed that I looked at but maybe it is an optical illusion.
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Definitely not an optical illusion, but...
The SporTrac is a completely different vehicle from the 2019 Ranger.
Explorer SporTrac.....................4'2" box.
2019 Ranger Crewcab..................5' box
2019 Ranger Supercab.................6' box
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10-29-2018, 06:05 PM
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#90
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
Posts: 5,156
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NOT SO FAST
I was very strongly leaning toward a new Ranger in the next year or two. In that time I will need to find out if the following information is correct because if it is, it will likely be a deal breaker. There is some discussion that this might not be the final version of the owners manual....
From: https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/threa...concerns.1210/
Below are excerpts from the 2019 Ranger manual:
Page 208: Do not exceed 62 mph (100 km/h) even if a country allows higher speeds under certain conditions.
I’ve been unable to find a limitation like this for another vehicle. For example, the F150, Escape, and Explorer manuals only state to not exceed 70 mph for inexperienced drivers while towing or during the first 500 miles. I’ve found nothing for either of these in the Chevy Colorado manual.
Page 208: Reduce the stipulated maximum permitted gross combination mass by 10% for every additional 1,000 ft (300 m) in high altitude regions above 1,000 ft (300 m).
10% is huge. Again, for example, the F150, Escape, and Explorer manuals state a 2% reduction per 1,000 ft. The Gross Combination Mass is from 12,150 lbs to 12,500 lbs depending on the model. My calculations show that a trailer would have to be under 4,000 lbs to tow it through Denver, Colorado?! I’ve found nothing regarding this in the Chevy Colorado manual.
Page 210: Max Tow without Trailer Brake 1,650 lb (750 kg)
I know most states require trailers over 1,500 lbs to have brakes. However, I’m not seeing this specific limitation on other vehicles.
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10-29-2018, 07:16 PM
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#91
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2005 16 ft Scamp Side Dinette and 2005 Fleetwood (Coleman) Taos pop-up / 2004 Dodge Dakota QuadCab and 2008 Subaru Outback
Posts: 1,227
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gordon2
I was very strongly leaning toward a new Ranger in the next year or two. In that time I will need to find out if the following information is correct because if it is, it will likely be a deal breaker. There is some discussion that this might not be the final version of the owners manual....
From: https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/threa...concerns.1210/
Below are excerpts from the 2019 Ranger manual:
Page 208: Do not exceed 62 mph (100 km/h) even if a country allows higher speeds under certain conditions.
I’ve been unable to find a limitation like this for another vehicle. For example, the F150, Escape, and Explorer manuals only state to not exceed 70 mph for inexperienced drivers while towing or during the first 500 miles. I’ve found nothing for either of these in the Chevy Colorado manual.
Page 208: Reduce the stipulated maximum permitted gross combination mass by 10% for every additional 1,000 ft (300 m) in high altitude regions above 1,000 ft (300 m).
10% is huge. Again, for example, the F150, Escape, and Explorer manuals state a 2% reduction per 1,000 ft. The Gross Combination Mass is from 12,150 lbs to 12,500 lbs depending on the model. My calculations show that a trailer would have to be under 4,000 lbs to tow it through Denver, Colorado?! I’ve found nothing regarding this in the Chevy Colorado manual.
Page 210: Max Tow without Trailer Brake 1,650 lb (750 kg)
I know most states require trailers over 1,500 lbs to have brakes. However, I’m not seeing this specific limitation on other vehicles.
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Hopefully the reduction per 1,000 ft is a misprint that will be corrected. I have seen many vehicles that are less than full sized trucks state a restricted towing weight if not equipped with trailer brakes. Our Subaru could tow 2700 lbs, but only 1,000 lbs without trailer brakes. Even the 2019 Ford F-150 has a blurb regarding trailer brakes and a 1500 lb limit.
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Sharpsburg, GA
04 Dodge Dakota V-8, 17 Dodge Durango V-6, 19 Ford Ranger 2.3 Ecoboost
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