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Old 12-13-2011, 05:21 PM   #29
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I just came back from my local Ford dealer. The salesman said they quit making the Ranger...No demand, couldn't sell'em, But we have a 5 year old 2wd Sport on the lot if you want to see it....only $16000
No demand?!?!
New Ranger Supercabs with 4.0 engine and tow package are being advertised for less than $18,000 here in Atlanta. Won't be long before they're gone though.
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:41 PM   #30
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I just came back from my local Ford dealer. The salesman said they quit making the Ranger...No demand, couldn't sell'em, But we have a 5 year old 2wd Sport on the lot if you want to see it....only $16000
No demand?!?!
Go figger
So I made a phone call and did a little research. Turns out the Ranger was not
canceled for lack of sales. It was forced off the market by the new CAFE
standards which started this year.
Oh,It's not that 29MPG is not respectable for a truck, it is. The problem is
that the Ranger is not expensive enough to justify the federal fines which are
threshholded now at 35MPG. It is hardly possible to make a truck get 40MPG
highway which is what it would take to make 35MPG average.
Many if not most Rangers are bought as fleet vehicles and often as low
priced handy second cars for families everywhere. Ford hopes that it can avoid
some of the federal penalties by selling more of the smaller,and more expensive
vehicles for that market and pushing the rest into Fullsized trucks.
The fullsized trucks have huge profit margins and can carry their weight in
federal penalties.
This all adds up to mixed news for fiberglass trailer owners.
The larger trailers will benefit from the increased sales of oversized trucks,
while the smaller ones will suffer from the elimination of smaller affordable
vehicles with adequate tow capacity.
This also explains the loss of most other small trucks from soon to be former
full line auto companies.
Oh, I forgot to mention that the last Ranger off the line went to one of it's
largest customers...ORKIN corp.
Customers like Orkin, Com Ed, NI Gas, and Municipalities will now have to pay more at fleet
time....HHMMM.. wonder who will have to bear the cost.


Interesting, my understanding was to discontinue selling the Ranger here was a marketing decision. The new design was so close in size to the F150 the two would compete for the same buyers.
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Old 12-14-2011, 11:03 AM   #31
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CAFE's pill.

Hi Steve,
Congratulation!

The intent of this post is not to be political, but just to reflect DCís reality. There could be another background for the demise of the Ford Ranger in the US. In the typical sausage making process in DC, it is easy to slip in a little pill. For some it is very good, for some poisonous, but all perceive it as the best sausage based on circumstances. The new CAFE standard has a little poisonous pill, which could benefit vehicle manufacturers by increasing vehiclesí footprint. http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...111219975/1429 "The loophole is the formula for setting mile-per-gallon targets. The standards, which actually depend on the sizes of vehicles automakers produce, are expected to require that firms boost average fuel economy to 35.5 mpg by 2016 and 54.5 mpg by 2025. Those oft-cited numbers are averages. In reality, each car company must meet a different standard each year determined by the literal "footprints" of the vehicles it makes. A vehicle's footprint is its track width times its wheelbase."

Fordís R&D and Marketing investment in F150 versus lack of investment in Ranger tends to support this footprint study. For Ford, it is a double whammy win, easier to meet new standards and better profit from larger vehicles.

There are many sausages made in DC, but my favored one is a good old Polish one.

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Old 12-16-2011, 05:11 PM   #32
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Not funny but the last Ranger was built today in ST Paul, Mn. The death of the Ranger and the last Ranger was built for Orkin pest control and will be used to kill bugs.
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The politicians never learn, You can't legislate technology, You have to engineer it.

Consumers are a provincial lot, if it is snowing in Yonkers, it must be snowing in Key West and San Diego too. They only started listing tow ratings about three years ago.

I expect we will see a lot of old SUVs and pickups around doing the towing.
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The politicians never learn, You can't legislate technology, You have to engineer it.

Consumers are a provincial lot, if it is snowing in Yonkers, it must be snowing in Key West and San Diego too. They only started listing tow ratings about three years ago.

I expect we will see a lot of old SUVs and pickups around doing the towing.

Listing or in owners manual (tow ratings)??

I think a car I had in 1974 had tow ratings in manual.
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Listing or in owners manual (tow ratings)??

I think a car I had in 1974 had tow ratings in manual.
I meant in Consumers Reports.
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The politicians never learn, You can't legislate technology, You have to engineer it....................
I agree with the engineering part but disagree with the politicians learning, they continually learning how to stay in power. I hope this is sufficiently Politically Correct perspective.
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:07 AM   #37
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i love my 03 ranger, its my second and i loved the first one too.

will watch for a good used one if this one ever dies, has 100,000 and seems the same as when new,,,if you don't count muddy dog footprints.

ford is dropping ranger sales here and i think they may be making an error.
i don't want a full sized pickup or i wouldn't have gotten a ranger in the first place. so i will not be moving up to a f150. and as much as a love my ford, if they will not make what i want to buy, i'll buy used or somewhere else.<_<
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:25 PM   #38
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There is a great demand and high prices right now for used vehicles, since the "Cash for Clunkers" removed about 50% of used vehicles, dealers are marking up any they can get a hold of. If you have a used vehicle, you can probably trade it in for a lot more than it is worth for a new car/truck.
Being one or those who does not believe everything I read on the Internet I looked up the actual figures. There are approximately 239 million passenger cars and trucks registered in the United States. Of these, 86.5 percent are more than two years old, which means there are approximately 206,735,000 used cars and trucks registered in the U.S. The Cash for Clunkers program removed 690,114 used cars from the road, which is about three-tenths of one percent of the used cars registered in the U.S. Where did you get your 50% figure?

Also, the phrase "you can probably trade it in for more than it is worth" is self- contradictory. A car is worth what you can get for it.
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I expect we will see a lot of old SUVs and pickups around doing the towing.
How's about my old pick up with a (soon to be) 1985 2.0L Ranger engine?
It will be mated to the VW tranny and get around 23-24 MPG towing and 25-26 not towing.
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I thought of this thread when I went to the auto parts store today. Parts houses use a jillion of the little rangers as delivery trucks. When you see a vehicle in use in a lot of fleet type ops like, it's generally a pretty good sign it's a bullet proof daily runner. Nobody would know that better than auto parts houses !
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I thought of this thread when I went to the auto parts store today. Parts houses use a jillion of the little rangers as delivery trucks. When you see a vehicle in use in a lot of fleet type ops like, it's generally a pretty good sign it's a bullet proof daily runner. Nobody would know that better than auto parts houses !
Or they just tender it out - call for bids for "supply of 25 trucks with 4 cyl engines" and etc, etc.

Then buy the ones that came in at low bid. The bean counters in the back orifice are not the ones who sell the parts so they have no clue of what vehicles need parts most often!

Fleet managers/purchasing managers can be the smartest, most knowledgeable folks around, or they can be the dumbest bunnies on the planet!

Around here the parts houses seem to mostly use small (Really tiny!) cars (used to be the Geo Metro was most common) as delivery vehicles - mixed bag of types & makes. Next step up tends to be the F250/Chevy 2500HD size and then on up to the humongous sized ones with separate cab & box.
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Or they just tender it out - call for bids for "supply of 25 trucks with 4 cyl engines" and etc, etc.

Then buy the ones that came in at low bid. The bean counters in the back orifice are not the ones who sell the parts so they have no clue of what vehicles need parts most often!

Fleet managers/purchasing managers can be the smartest, most knowledgeable folks around, or they can be the dumbest bunnies on the planet!

Around here the parts houses seem to mostly use small (Really tiny!) cars (used to be the Geo Metro was most common) as delivery vehicles - mixed bag of types & makes. Next step up tends to be the F250/Chevy 2500HD size and then on up to the humongous sized ones with separate cab & box.
I hear you on that. I remember reading an article some years ago about the fleet vehicles of the US postal service. For quite a long time, they ran many of the much maligned Ford Pinto. It turned out it was one of the least expensive vehicles to operate in their overall fleet.

I guess that was, as long as it didn't burst into flames from a rear end collision.....
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