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Old 07-18-2011, 01:17 PM   #1
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New Tug, have wiring ?

I'm getting a 09 Kia Sedona later today and have to put a trailer hitch on etc. I'm just wondering for those who have put brakes on their 13 Scamp,Boler etc, what did you use for a plug 7way or 5way ?
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Old 07-18-2011, 01:23 PM   #2
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:07 PM   #3
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Kevin thanks I figured the 7way, just wanted to see what someone else thought.
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Old 07-19-2011, 06:00 PM   #4
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Tim, you'll find the seven pin diagrams in the Document Center, both vehicle and trailer ends: Fiberglass RV - Document Center - Electrical

Yep, Kevin has it right.
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:05 PM   #5
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Hey Tim, just a sidenote... I just installed a 7-plug as I rewired my Boler and I took it for granted that the standard wiring schematic would be "standard". Or maybe I should say that I "assumed" ... and we all know what happens when we assume! Yep, the plug's black wire went to the brakes, the blue wire to a turn signal, etc etc. STUPID me for not doing a 30 sec check with my meter BEFORE wiring it all up. It was a tense hour until the realization hit that it was the plug that was messed up - NOT the re-wiring job in the trailer! So, just a warning to double check that your plug you buy, actually matches up with the rest of the world's 7 plug standard. OH, and I have a brand TAP 7 wire plug, fwiw.
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:38 AM   #6
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Thanks Donna & Luke, good info. I have the Tug almost wired just have to run a couple of wires to the front of the vehicle. And mount my p2 controller so I can make the last connections . Then I have to put brakes on the trailer next.
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:23 AM   #7
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I had the same problem with a pigtail that Luke had. I use junction boxes with my 7 pin pigtails, It really helps out in sorting out wiring issues and protects the connections. Redneck and E trailer sell the boxes for about $15.
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I have wiring issues too. Can you link to those connectors, I don't know what I am looking for
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I added a link to my last post for the junction box. Check out the video. Even thought they are just dealing with brake wiring you do the same to tie your lighting, aux. pwr, and breakway wiring into the 7 pin pigtail. On my 13 Scamp I'm working on, I going to mount the box under the left side of the goucho seat base inside the trailer. Makes a much cleaner job than butt splices and it is real easy to troubleshoot wiring issues.
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I added a link to my last post for the junction box. Check out the video. Even thought they are just dealing with brake wiring you do the same to tie your lighting, aux. pwr, and breakway wiring into the 7 pin pigtail. On my 13 Scamp I'm working on, I going to mount the box under the left side of the goucho seat base inside the trailer. Makes a much cleaner job than butt splices and it is real easy to troubleshoot wiring issues.
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Cool! Thanks!!
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Hey Tim, just a sidenote... I just installed a 7-plug as I rewired my Boler and I took it for granted that the standard wiring schematic would be "standard". Or maybe I should say that I "assumed" ... and we all know what happens when we assume! Yep, the plug's black wire went to the brakes, the blue wire to a turn signal, etc etc. STUPID me for not doing a 30 sec check with my meter BEFORE wiring it all up. It was a tense hour until the realization hit that it was the plug that was messed up - NOT the re-wiring job in the trailer! So, just a warning to double check that your plug you buy, actually matches up with the rest of the world's 7 plug standard. OH, and I have a brand TAP 7 wire plug, fwiw.
Hi, all

Wise words!
Most of the "Fat and Flat(pin) 7-pin connectors on older trailers are old-style Bargmans, and the trailers are wired to match.
You need to make sure you've bought the right car-or-trailer pigtail/plug or be prepared to rewire what you did buy.
One source for an exact duplicate of both ends is Bargman 7-Way Cable

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When I bought my Scamp it had a 6 pin connector on it, I changed it to a flat 4. And now I'm going to put brakes on it so it will be a 7 pole. I just got done wiring up my Van today, I put on a 7 pole connector along with a P2 brake controller. Man that was a work out running the wires I had to underneath and up to the engine compartment. The hitch only took me 30 minutes to put on and that was the easy part. Eddie thanks for that link, it sure looks like a sweet set-up. I know that my trailer lights aren't the same color code as my vehicle, but I worked that out with a test light when I changed it from 6-4. Now I have the electric brakes coming Wed so I'll probably get to work and putting them on thurs/fri I hope. I shouldn't have much trouble with the wiring but that junction box looks like a cheap and good way to go.
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I second Eddie's junction box! THAT was the only reason my fix was *relatively* painless when I discovered the pigtail didn't match the tow's wiring. And I put mine in the same spot... pretty close and easy to get at if needed.
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So Eddie or Luke if you mount the box inside the trailer, how long of a pigtail do you use to get out to the tongue (8')? By the way I'm not planning on using a pigtail but I may change my mind . And does anyone have a picture of the mounted box inside ? And how do you wire in your breakeaway switch if your wiring is all inside the trailer ?
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