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Old 07-22-2013, 05:09 PM   #1
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I'm getting a Kia Sportage LX 4 cylinder 2.0L manual to tow my casita patriot I plan to buy. Any feedback? (Hope it works).
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:12 PM   #2
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I'm getting a Kia Sportage LX 4 cylinder 2.0L manual to tow my casita patriot I plan to buy. Any feedback? (Hope it works).
Don't hope. Look in the owner's manual or on line to find out the rated towing capacity for the Kia. Check here to see what a realistic loaded weight is for the Casita you plan to buy.

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Old 07-22-2013, 05:49 PM   #3
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There's only one Casita Patriot listed on weights list, I believe that one has the bathroom. You might make it without a bathroom. Better yet, a Scamp without the bathroom is even lighter.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:11 PM   #4
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No way I can go without bathroom as I plan to be off grid as much as possible. Thanks. Already checked tow factor. Same as Crv. 1500 us - more in Europe.
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You don't mention the Sportage model year but since it has a 1500 pound tow limit, it sounds like a new or near-new unit.

I've towed the heavier Trillium 4500 for many miles with a 2.0L manual tranny Sportage 4x4, but mine is a first-gen vehicle. These have higher tow limits due in part to their having been built on a different platform than that used for succeeding generations. Though it's been a marvelous rig for my purposes, it so little resembles the present-day version that any blanket recommendation from me would be meaningless.

The one observation you may find useful is that the 2.0L four-cyl is a bit gutless when towing on uphill climbs, which may be an issue for you since I think the newer Sportage is also quite a bit heavier than mine. This may be one of the reasons they lowered the towing capacity- more muscle needed to move the car equals less muscle available to move the trailer. That's assuming of course that we're talking about the same 2.0L.

I will say that it's been a remarkably trouble-free vehicle in spite of having been put through all kinds of h-e-double-pitchforks in the 150,000 miles I've owned it. Whether that's a fluke or due to quality-of-build I cannot say.

Best of luck to you!

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Francesca,

What year was your Kia manufactured? What does your Trillium weigh? What is your tongue weight?
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My Kia's a 1997, one of a generation that went more or less unchanged from 1996 through 2002. It has an ordinary hitch installed by U-Haul. No frills or add-ons there.

The trailer weighs just shy of 2,000 pounds loaded...tongue weight kept at around 200 pounds. It also has electric brakes, something I consider essential if towing anything much over 500 pounds or so.

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Thanks Francesco. I appreciate all the info. It's a 2006 Kia 2WD manual. Will compare your 2000 lb. to my wt. Judi.
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Thanks Francesco. I appreciate all the info. It's a 2006 Kia 2WD manual. Will compare your 2000 lb. to my wt. Judi.
I hope you understood that the tow limit on my Sportage is higher than on yours, which I think you gave as 1500 pounds. The first gen limit is 2,000 pounds, and I'm scrupulous not to exceed it. I like to think that's part of the reason it's lasted/served me so well!

I don't advocate nor would I ever recommend that anyone disregard limits imposed by the manufacturers of their vehicles....

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Old 07-23-2013, 03:16 PM   #10
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Yes. I saw that. I spoke with scamp people and lso looking at v6 Kia fir same price (Except not a manual transmission, and I am so partial to manual transmissions). So I am still debating. Thanks for good feedback. It's a learning process but as a former hippie girl back in 60s I will figure it out. I do tend to go for riskier side of life and so far the fun has well outweighed the bad outcomes. Judi from Indiana about to set off on my 3rd act.
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Hi, Don't know if you purchased your Kia yet. I hope you have not. I would advise against ever buying a Kia. They simply don't stand out to me as reliable, well-known, or well-made cars. I don't have a tow vehicle and I'm not towing anything... still dreaming right now, but I do know that a Kia would never be on my choice list. I have owned 2 cars in my life: a Honda Civic and a Ford Focus. Neither can tow more than a 1000- but they both have been outstanding reliable cars. When I choose my tow vehicle, I will try these 2 brands first. Also, when out on the road, you want a car that every mechanic is familiar with. You don't want to be stuck in the boonies because no one knows how to fix a Kia. Also- read Consumer Reports! Subscribe to it if you have to. Even a good car could have a bad year. For example my 2005 Focus rates a millions times better than it's 2004 predecessor. I don't have any hard evidence against Kia, it just sits badly with me, like Saturns. I would shop 10 other manufacturers before even thinking about a Kia or a Saturn. Just my opinion. Good luck!
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Thanks. No I did not buy although it was a lively vehicle. I bought a 2009 Subaru Forester today. Gets good Mpg, is recommended over Honda and most other 4 cylinder range SUVs as it has way more torque and HP. Also got a manual trans which I am committed to. Fit a fantastic deal in vehicle and it maneuvers easily up and down curves and hills. It will tow a 13ft fiberglass easily and even a 16 ft. Thanks for feedback. Now waiting out end of summer looking for the best trailer deal at my price.
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As a fellow Subaru (2008 Legacy) owner who tows a 2011 Scamp (13') I am delighted to hear you purchased a Subaru. Manual shift is the only way to go as far as we're concerned. The car handles beautifully, is fun to drive and the all-wheel-drive gives it an extra safety factor. We have been delighted to tow the trailer with our Subaru (and you will too)!
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