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Old 04-24-2013, 12:13 AM   #57
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Not sure how DRL's could be used as a substitute for headlights as normally when they are on none of your dashboard lights are on - the dash is just as it would be if your headlights were not own. One would have to be pretty asleep at the wheel to realize your headlights were not actually on. Although I seen that more than a few times as well!
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The light telling you the DRLs are on is so that you realize when it gets dark that you should turn on the headlights instead. Even a marginally intelligent driver shouldn't need this because he notices that the instrument panel is dark; however, even less intelligent automotive designers have created instrument panels which require illumination even in daylight, so that the warning light is now required.
When I see these vehicles without tail lights at night, I often look at their dashboards... and usually I see one of those idiotic always-lit panels glowing brightly.
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Old 04-24-2013, 12:45 AM   #58
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Sorry Brian I missed that explanation.... both my cars dash lights are all very very dim and hard to read at night if the head light switch isnt on. Suspect all the makes are a little different in that regard.
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Not sure how DRL's could be used as a substitute for headlights as normally when they are on none of your dashboard lights are on - the dash is just as it would be if your headlights were not own. One would have to be pretty asleep at the wheel to realize your headlights were not actually on. Although I seen that more than a few times as well!

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I see you answered your first sentence with your second!
Or maybe it's the texting.
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LOL - small screen texting for sure Floyd.

As I am sure you realized is what I meant to say was the dash lights are just as they would be if your headlights were not "ON"! LOL Pretty darn dark & only a few items are dimly readable. Forget about trying to change a radio station or adjust the ac or heat LOL at least on both my cars thats the case - only the US purchased Subaru has an idiot light all bright telling me the DRL's are on. After owning the car for several years it still causes me to look at it more frequently than I should admit, as I want to make sure its not a different warning light telling me of a problem.

Cant say I have noticed over the years an increase in people driving on highways at night without all their lights on. Also dont think I have seen it any more in Canada where DRL are the norm vs while driving in the US where they are not the norm. I see people without all their lights on far more frequently when driving in the city than I do on the highway -always have & suspect that is due to the increased street lighting as people don't notice as fast that their dash is dim.

As far as whether or not DRL's work at reducing crashes here is a link to findings of various studies on the topic. It appears most agree they do work.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:21 AM   #61
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I ordered mine from Toyota but the dealer said there is a unknown freeze on the factory fog lights for now so the dealer order these instead and they installed them.
Just a note on that. The factory ones are the PIAA that the dealer installed. Not too certain on the 2013 FJs but on my 07 those are listed as driving lights and should only be on with the high beams. I should re read my manual.

If you want even more light, there is a circuit for "off road" lights that mount on the roof rack.

The 2013s have come along way since my 07.
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LOL - small screen texting for sure Floyd.

As I am sure you realized is what I meant to say was the dash lights are just as they would be if your headlights were not "ON"! LOL Pretty darn dark & only a few items are dimly readable. Forget about trying to change a radio station or adjust the ac or heat LOL at least on both my cars thats the case - only the US purchased Subaru has an idiot light all bright telling me the DRL's are on. After owning the car for several years it still causes me to look at it more frequently than I should admit, as I want to make sure its not a different warning light telling me of a problem.

Cant say I have noticed over the years an increase in people driving on highways at night without all their lights on. Also dont think I have seen it any more in Canada where DRL are the norm vs while driving in the US where they are not the norm. I see people without all their lights on far more frequently when driving in the city than I do on the highway -always have & suspect that is due to the increased street lighting as people don't notice as fast that their dash is dim.

As far as whether or not DRL's work at reducing crashes here is a link to findings of various studies on the topic. It appears most agree they do work.
There was a study done in 2004 which determined that
"Suicide rates are linked to the amount of country&western music played on the radio"...
I guess crossover tunes only make you mildly depressed!
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There was a study done in 2004 which determined that
"Suicide rates are linked to the amount of country&western music played on the radio"...
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It's interesting how this thread started with driving lights and has ended up with this!

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There was a study done in 2004 which determined that
"Suicide rates are linked to the amount of country&western music played on the radio"...
I guess crossover tunes only make you mildly depressed!
ROFL - gezzz your scaring me Floyd. Think I might have to sell my tickets to the 3 day country music fest and camping at the Columbia Gorge this summer or pick up some anti depressants off the internet before I go!
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ROFL - gezzz your scaring me Floyd. Think I might have to sell my tickets to the 3 day country music fest and camping at the Columbia Gorge this summer or pick up some anti depressants off the internet before I go!
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