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Old 04-24-2013, 10:21 AM   #61
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I ordered mine from Toyota but the dealer said there is a unknown freeze on the factory fog lights for now so the dealer order these instead and they installed them.
Just a note on that. The factory ones are the PIAA that the dealer installed. Not too certain on the 2013 FJs but on my 07 those are listed as driving lights and should only be on with the high beams. I should re read my manual.

If you want even more light, there is a circuit for "off road" lights that mount on the roof rack.

The 2013s have come along way since my 07.
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:24 AM   #62
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LOL - small screen texting for sure Floyd.

As I am sure you realized is what I meant to say was the dash lights are just as they would be if your headlights were not "ON"! LOL Pretty darn dark & only a few items are dimly readable. Forget about trying to change a radio station or adjust the ac or heat LOL at least on both my cars thats the case - only the US purchased Subaru has an idiot light all bright telling me the DRL's are on. After owning the car for several years it still causes me to look at it more frequently than I should admit, as I want to make sure its not a different warning light telling me of a problem.

Cant say I have noticed over the years an increase in people driving on highways at night without all their lights on. Also dont think I have seen it any more in Canada where DRL are the norm vs while driving in the US where they are not the norm. I see people without all their lights on far more frequently when driving in the city than I do on the highway -always have & suspect that is due to the increased street lighting as people don't notice as fast that their dash is dim.

As far as whether or not DRL's work at reducing crashes here is a link to findings of various studies on the topic. It appears most agree they do work.
There was a study done in 2004 which determined that
"Suicide rates are linked to the amount of country&western music played on the radio"...
I guess crossover tunes only make you mildly depressed!
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:32 AM   #63
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There was a study done in 2004 which determined that
"Suicide rates are linked to the amount of country&western music played on the radio"...
An important documentary (excerpt below) found it's also a direct cause of Alien Heads Exploding- but it has to have yodeling to hurt that hard.

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It's interesting how this thread started with driving lights and has ended up with this!

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There was a study done in 2004 which determined that
"Suicide rates are linked to the amount of country&western music played on the radio"...
I guess crossover tunes only make you mildly depressed!
ROFL - gezzz your scaring me Floyd. Think I might have to sell my tickets to the 3 day country music fest and camping at the Columbia Gorge this summer or pick up some anti depressants off the internet before I go!
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ROFL - gezzz your scaring me Floyd. Think I might have to sell my tickets to the 3 day country music fest and camping at the Columbia Gorge this summer or pick up some anti depressants off the internet before I go!
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