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Old 02-17-2016, 06:01 AM   #29
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I wondered about that. The new Outbacks are rated 33 on the highway, and I've averaged 31 with my CR-V (rated at 32) over the past two summers with more than 10K miles. But I know the Outback wouldn't get near that mileage towing.

The Highlander is something I'll look at, but then I'm looking at a much higher price tag for the vehicle - I wanted to stay at about $30K at the highest. I'll start looking for used ones this summer.

Thanks Carol for your input! I find it so valuable!

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MPG is an interesting consideration. We towed three different trailers with our 2004 Honda CRV, all the trailers in the 16 foot range. Over 8 years we averaged 20-21 mpg towing. Typically we drove at 55-60 miles per hour.

Though getting good mpg is important, we appreciated the reliability of the CRV more than the mpg. In 250,000 miles we never had a driveline repair, actually the same clutch.

We found when traveling, towing miles would be about half the miles we drove, the balance being driving around and exploring miles. It's the combination of both forms of driving that counts.

We now tow with a Honda Odyssey, a more powerful and more comfortable vehicle than our CRV though not as versatile in terms of a wider range of road types.

A good part of choosing a tow vehicle relates to it's primary use. If you're like us and on the road most of the time you seek one type of vehicle. If the tow vehicle is used primarily for driving to work you choose another type.

We also keep our vehicles for 10 years/250,000 miles and our tow vehicle is our only vehicle.
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Old 02-17-2016, 10:24 AM   #30
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You need to find the trailer you want and the exact model, then figure out the numbers which include GCWR and GVWR, and then get the tow vehicle, not first.
Great advice! I realize that's the right order of things. I think I've decided I want the 16', and then I switch and think I want the 13'. I have to see them in person I think before I'll make the plunge, and I won't be able to get up the Scamp plant until the first week of April. It's hard not to succumb to the pull of finding a new vehicle when that's local, but you are absolutely right!

Right now I'm thinking of three scenarios -

13' + Outback (2700lb/200lb tongue) - I like the smallness and efficiency
13' + Toyota Tacoma - I like the smallness and the towing power
16' + Toyota Tacoma - I like the idea of more room and towing power, but will give up some of the ability to go places I want to frequent that are off the main area. I also think smaller trailer will be easier to pull for a novice.

And maybe I'll find a used Highlander or some other SUV, but I'd rather a truck than a mid-sized SUV I think.

You all have been so helpful!
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:04 AM   #31
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for real peace of mind, go with the most engine power you can afford. it has saved me on many harrowing occasions.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:32 PM   #32
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I was wrong ! A properly equipped Equinox is 3500 lbs and a Journey is 2500 lbs. . The 2 dealers we talked with must have given me the towing specs for the vehicles they had in Stock .I apologize for my error. That being said ,my son owns an Equinox which I have driven on occasion towing his utility trailer. I don't know if I would be comfortable towing 3500 lbs with an Equinox after my experience towing the utility trailer.
LOL no problem Steven when I was shopping for a new tug I found that the sales staff more often than not did not really know what they were talking about when you asked about a vehicles towing specs. Was given a great deal of misinformation. Always best to ask to see the manual and read it yourself to see what it actually says. As I mentioned many of the vehicles have different tow ratings depending on what model or optional engine they come with.

Personally have no idea as to actual towing with many of the vehicles I listed as possible alternatives or the OP to take a look at, only went as far as sitting in many of them ;-)
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:37 PM   #33
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Great advice! I realize that's the right order of things. I think I've decided I want the 16', and then I switch and think I want the 13'. I have to see them in person I think before I'll make the plunge, and I won't be able to get up the Scamp plant until the first week of April.
When I was trying to decide on which size Scamp I wanted I just kept my eye on Craigslist and went and looked at any Scamp that came up close to me even if it did not have the options I was after or was the wrong age etc.

Scamps have not changed much at all over the years so you will get a pretty good idea as to whether or not a certain size will work for you even if the trailer is 25 years old. A new one is not going to feel much different sitting in it - the material on the cushions will be a different colour though
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Old 02-17-2016, 02:13 PM   #34
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I am picking up my new Toyota Forerunner this afternoon to tow my 17' Casita... looking forward to some longer distance trips as well as tackling the Colorado mtns with it!
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FWIW, we tow our little Compact II with either a 4 cal Forester or a 4 cyl Tacoma X-cab
Mileage is equivalent car to truck. Neither one was ordered with the tow package.
What we notice is the truck handles the job with a lot less "effort". We notice this especially in mountain driving. Trucks are geared differently.
Another plus with the truck is we have room for camp chairs and awnings.
Obviously our little camper is much lighter than what you are considering. But I think the difference between the two vehicles is still enlightening. It is always better to have more ability than the minimum needed for the job!

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Old 02-17-2016, 04:12 PM   #36
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Thanks everyone for all the input!

I hate giving up gas mileage when I'm not towing, but it looks like I might have to. I was thinking a Toyota Tecoma for a pick up or maybe a Honda Pilot or Toyota SUV would work.

I don't think I want to go any smaller on the trailer since I'll be living in it.

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We tow with a Tacoma and it is a very capable TV and reasonable on fuel when not. 18mpg towing and 25mpg when not. Pilot/Ridgeline from Honda, one an SUV the other a lite truck would also do well on fuel and be solid TV choices.

I guess the point here is that having a tow rating more around 3500-5000 pounds just gives you sooooo much freedom of choice when trailer shopping. I agree with the posters above that a 200 lb tongue weight limitation is simply a suffocating restriction.
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