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Old 12-07-2014, 02:43 PM   #29
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The 4X trailer builds here in the US are definitely getting everything they want in a very small box. Seems the axle-less is working from their forums.

"Suspension held up great throughout the journey and the water tank the axle-less suspension let me put in came in very handy in the desert."

"He said loaded up on rocky washboard FSR it handled like it was glued to the road. I watched him in my rearview mirror all the way home, that little trailer tracks like a dream."

One mod was to put a 20g water tank where the axle would have been. Always have wanted to get the spare tire off the back, maybe it will fit there!
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Old 12-19-2014, 10:53 AM   #30
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Hello Dirt Travelers

Broke a spindle off our 15ft Trillium out in the desert. Need a new axle.
We gingerly travel dirt roads in Baja, AZ, Eastern Sierras so I am tempted to raise the threshold on washboard and gullies.
Anyone put their egg through the torture test?
1. Springs vs torsion.. ?
Lift height?
Remove upper cabinets..etc.

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Have you looked into Tembren Axles, see them online. I am seriously considering putting them on my Burro.
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Old 12-19-2014, 12:36 PM   #31
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Ordered the Timbren 2000#HD w 3500#straight spindle w brake flange. eTrailer Rene has been helpful and the price was comparable w torsion type axles-- no tax or shipping helped.
The idea is to add 18" of tube to the frame for reinforcement and a lift so didnt get the 4in lift model axle. Dave Hunsucker, River Valley Welding the welder in Blythe CA was working on a car frame he reinforced welding flat iron along the 50's car frame. (The car is a show low-rider that needs reinforcing because of the bouncing hydralics). Seems like a clean solution.

The 2x2 cross member that fits into the axle is also recommended.
One drawback is the only choice of 2000# or 3500#. The axle will be working rather than sitting high and riding hard.
Thanx for helping out w my choice. Will update after Baja trip.
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Old 02-01-2015, 12:36 PM   #32
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Timbren Axle-less Axle Installed

Timbren Axle update: The heavy duty model was an inch long so it took some cutting and welding to fit it (the non HD would have been better). A square frame of 3x angle iron stabilizes as well as protects the 3in drop in the floor where the grey water bag resides. There's 11in clearance with 9in under the Timbrens. The trailer rides better without bouncing over potholes. Hindsight I would have ordered the standard build-
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Old 03-02-2015, 07:25 PM   #33
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UPDATE
Have traveled 1800 miles. Last trip home was 400 miles of rain! The axle has changed the whole concept of what-is-works to bring-it-on. The extra weight of the 3x angle iron frame is an unexpected bonus that keeps the trailer on the road with the weight low and centered. No more loading the front just to keep the hiphop/sway from happening. The tires do fine with less air pressure and no heat. The washboard will bring up other issues but now the options are available.
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Old 03-03-2015, 07:30 AM   #34
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Now you are ready for any challenge. Another trip to Chaco Canyon, maybe?
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Old 03-03-2015, 12:06 PM   #35
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I am trying to restrain myself.. 10% further down a dirt road will get me 90% of where I want to be. Chaco was the inaugural trip for my Hot Rod Lincoln with new air bags and front springs. Thanx for the memory!
Funny 54 sec. video of going 90% too far in Death Valley. (Camera battery died-we made it)
Dedeckera Canyon Crazy Dog Dyslexia - YouTube
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Old 04-06-2015, 11:08 AM   #36
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A couple of questions:

We just got back from our first extended trip to S.C. in our 4500 trillium, 4500 kms.
Most of it was very smooth, but there were stretches on concrete where the hiway was very "undulating" and the trailer fought with the TV, (sounded like the ball & hitch were coming off). The only way of stopping this was to slow down to about 45 - 50 mph, until we were back on asphalt. It's the same going over bridges!
I think the suspension is origional. It seems very hard. When I step on the door frame there isn't any spring up & down (trailer off the jacks of course).

*Is this normal?
*Would a new suspension help?
*Is it even possible to repair these rubber axles?
*Or would it be better to go with a whole new axle & spring setup?

Thanks in advance for any help

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Old 04-06-2015, 11:46 AM   #37
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Phil, Sounds like a new axle is in your future. The only other thing I would check is if your tongue weight is between 150 and 200 lbs.
If you get a new axle, I would go with a 2500 lb rating. I put a 3500 lb axle on, and it seems too stiff.
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Old 04-06-2015, 01:29 PM   #38
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TIMBREN 2000LBS AXLE-LESS SUSPENSION WITH REGULAR SPINDLE ARMS, w/ brake flange. Add a 2x crossbar.
part #ASR2000S02, not HD will bolt on with little effort. (after cutting off the original). eTrailer -no tax no shipping.
Travels great and doesn't do the herky jerky if not stabilized while parked. Washboard will be a personal decision not a limitation.
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More about the Timbren axle-less install please

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Timbren Axle update: The heavy duty model was an inch long so it took some cutting and welding to fit it (the non HD would have been better). A square frame of 3x angle iron stabilizes as well as protects the 3in drop in the floor where the grey water bag resides. There's 11in clearance with 9in under the Timbrens. The trailer rides better without bouncing over potholes. Hindsight I would have ordered the standard build-
Could you explain better how the HD is 'an inch long so it took some cutting and welding to fit it' ? Which dimension is 1" longer than the non-HD? I thought only the spindle arm was longer to accommodate fatter tires.

Also, why was it you went with the straight spindle arm rather than the 4" lift?

I have a 16' Scamp I'm thinking of using this system on, so that off-roading is easier (bigger wheels, tires, more clearance).

Thanks.
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Old 08-09-2015, 03:04 AM   #40
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HD is built for bad roads! I would still not get the 3500#, or the HD--- we travel light. The 2000# is taking the bounce rather than the frame. It is a well manufactured piece -- i would guess it is well engineered.
My original design was to reinforce the frame and get the 3-4in height w/ a welded section of tube. The trailer has good clearance. The tail could be worked (raise the bumper--add skid or do some cutting and fiberglassing) We have a truck that raises/lowers in the back 3.5in.
Truth is-- we like one step in-and-out the door!
The dimensions are on the Timbren site -- call them - they are helpful. its just that little bit longer on the frame that a beefed up system was necessary for the Trillium 4500 (the frame offsets). My opinion is the HD would be called for if bad roads were normal and heavy loads were common.
My theory the extra weight low and centered makes for the sweet ride so sometimes its just luck.
Longer spindle fat tires would be good for getting up a muddy creek, and matching spare. Fenders would be easy to add. But I am not sure fat equals better. My experience is mostly desert.
4X sites are great for creative solutions and they have installed trailer Timbrens with good results so check in w them.
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