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Old 03-03-2015, 06:06 PM   #15
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I had to replace the axle on my 1989 16' as soon as I got it last year. When I welded in the new axle, I positioned it rearward as far as possible so the tires just barely clear the wheel wells. This put extra weight forward on the hitch and does allow me to use a rear carrier. Just keep in mind that you need 10-15% of the total trailer weight on the tongue for stability. You also need that rear receiver hitch properly braced to the frame. If you are using a light duty tow vehicle you of course need to be more vigilant with weight placement. I use either a Grand Cherokee or Suburban to tow it, so it's not as important for me.
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Old 03-13-2015, 07:43 PM   #16
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This discussion interests me. I have a 2014 16 ft Scamp c/w optional 2"reciever hitch. I purchase a bike rack for it and loaded our 2 bikes on it for our annual trip to Riding Mountain National Park. I definitely struggled with stability issues on the highway. I had transferred a lot of our cargo to the front of the trailer for balance, but both weight and amplified sway seemed to be at play. We added some ratchet straps to stabilise the sway factor by securing the bikes to the bumper. Immediately following that addition we drove several miles along a winding gravel road to a remote lake camp site. Upon arrival I was shocked to find the bike rack broken and one of my bikes almost dragging on the ground. The magnified cantilever effect from the bouncing of the trailer did a number on the rack. That's the end of using the receiver hitch for what I had hoped.
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Old 03-13-2015, 07:56 PM   #17
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Controling bounce & sway

Now I will ask advise from the forum. Somewhere in my reading in this forum shock absorbers were mentioned for torsion bar suspension. As mentioned previously I own a 2014 16 ft Scamp side dinette w/ shower etc. When traveling on decent roads I come upon a dip in the road that causes my teeth to grind, as I imagine the chaos caused in the trailer, by the bouncing of the trailer. On top of that it seem to trigger swaying. I am planning a 5000 mile round trip to The Maritime provinces and would like to address these issues before leaving. Any suggestions.
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Old 03-13-2015, 09:30 PM   #18
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The leverage, or cantilever effect of bikes on a rear rack can cause unexpected results. I know of two racks breaking and bikes being dragged in the road. I had one rack bend, bought another that was OK, but ended up building my own rack. I like the type where the bike wheels set on the rack rather than the bikes hanging. Had no handling issues with two bikes on the rear of our Uhaul camper on a 3000 mile trip. Don't really like them back there, but bikes are just a pain in the butt to haul around and this solution worked for me.
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Old 03-14-2015, 07:12 AM   #19
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I am building a bike rack for the back of my 16' Scamp although it will come up off the bumper with a post on each side of the spare. I "think" it should be very secure and will avoid most of the issues of a hitch mounted carrier. I also intend to someday add a receiver to the back of the Scamp just to add a small carrier for the rare occurrence when I need the space. Really because I have the material and tools and just want to do it.

One eye opener for me has been towing since I added the battery/propane tank shroud and tongue tool box full of stuff to the front of my Scamp. I did not think I added that much weight but have noticed the truck squatted down more and the Scamp tows a better (although it was not bad before). Anyway, my theory is not to be afraid of adding tongue weight.
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:13 AM   #20
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One doesn't need to be "Afraid" of tongue weight as long as it is within specification.
BUT.... some trailers (16' S***P?) have had a slight history of frame cracks and frequent inspection would be prudent.


Of course this applies to all trailers anyway, especially if one is adding tongue weight to the trailers frame.
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Old 03-14-2015, 01:52 PM   #21
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A cantilevered load, especially on a bouncing trailer, puts a mega strain on the hitch. More so if the bike rack is behind the spare tire. (Floyd made a bike rack on his Scamp 13 that puts them above the battery on the front.)
But, you can improve your situation by removing the spare and carrying it in your T.V. Move the bike rack closer, then add a couple of eye bolts to the trailer so you can lash the bikes up with bungy cords to keep the strain off the carrier.
As far as trailer sway - how tight is the hitch ball and receiver up front?
Any play there will allow sway to get started. Take up any play in the receiver with shims or set screws. Make sure the hitch ball is as close to your rear bumper as possible. Keep a steady hand on the steering wheel. Don't jerk it around.
To reduce bounce; reduce tire pressures. Find a Load/Inflation chart for the trailer tires. Weigh the rig, fully loaded , so you know what the load is on each tire, and set air pressure accordingly. Stop every 50 miles or so, of driving highway speeds, and feel the tires. If they are not too warm, the lower air pressure is OK.

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This discussion interests me. I have a 2014 16 ft Scamp c/w optional 2"reciever hitch. I purchase a bike rack for it and loaded our 2 bikes on it for our annual trip to Riding Mountain National Park. I definitely struggled with stability issues on the highway. I had transferred a lot of our cargo to the front of the trailer for balance, but both weight and amplified sway seemed to be at play. We added some ratchet straps to stabilise the sway factor by securing the bikes to the bumper. Immediately following that addition we drove several miles along a winding gravel road to a remote lake camp site. Upon arrival I was shocked to find the bike rack broken and one of my bikes almost dragging on the ground. The magnified cantilever effect from the bouncing of the trailer did a number on the rack. That's the end of using the receiver hitch for what I had hoped.
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Old 03-14-2015, 02:18 PM   #22
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This is what I did; with no sway. However its on a 5er.
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Old 03-14-2015, 04:15 PM   #23
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Can you send me a picture of your bike rack?
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Old 03-15-2015, 09:09 PM   #24
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I had a 2" receiver hitch installed on my, now sold 2006 Scamp. It felt very unstable and flimsy. No way I'd put my $7500 mountain bike on it.
Now my ParkLiner receiver 2" hitch does work great and is 100% more stable and solid than the Scamp bumper system.
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