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07-22-2010, 02:11 AM
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The problem in America is the drivers. I have been passed by persons towing 30 ft or longer RVs and I was going the speed limit. I hardly ever go the speed limit whilst towing my Trillium. I remember seeing a Chevy van being pushed sideways by its trailer and the tires squealing like banshees. Not a pretty sight. He was lucky nothing else happened, roll over or collision.
BTW, we sure do talk a lot about towing on this blog. Maybe there should be a special thread just for it. Well don't that beat all? We are IN a towing etc thread. Carry on Mr Parker.
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07-22-2010, 10:58 AM
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If your car is rated to tow 'X' (whether or not you agree that it 'can' tow more than that) and you get ino an accident, the insurance company will go by that 'X' amount when verifying if you were within your tow rating. Insurance companies are not known to 'give you the benefit of the doubt'. And if there is another car involved in the accident also, you definitely do not want to be found 'overloaded'.
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I have never seen this brought up in 6 years of adjusting claims.
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07-22-2010, 07:21 PM
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I have never seen this brought up in 6 years of adjusting claims.
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Maybe because you're in Canada, rather on this side of the litigious border?
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07-24-2010, 09:22 AM
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Maybe because you're in Canada, rather on this side of the litigious border?
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Probably not on the USA side either (I worked 5 years in P&C claims in the USA) since your insurance is a contract between you and the insurer, and they can only exclude coverage based on the contract provisions.
Where it could cause a problem is in a lawsuit where you were grossly negligent and the lawsuit award exceeds your policy's liability limits, which is why I don't ever want to exceed the manufacturers recommendations.
John
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07-24-2010, 12:05 PM
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08-07-2010, 05:17 PM
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The Pontiac Vibe is actually a Toyota Matrix and is a much better vechicle then the HHR
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08-16-2010, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Roger C H
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Been reading this exact anecdotal urban legend for years now.
Well fabricated, except it is without date,documentation, or any other form of credibility.
BE WARNED! You out there who believe everything you read.
If you believe that story, think about this poor guy....
Police Constable Abducted by Aliens
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08-16-2010, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by floyd
Been reading this exact anecdotal urban legend for years now.
Well fabricated, except it is without date,documentation, or any other form of credibility.
BE WARNED! You out there who believe everything you read.
If you believe that story, think about this poor guy....
Police Constable Abducted by Aliens
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Funny!
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08-16-2010, 12:53 PM
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Trailer: 1985 13 ft U-Haul
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European towing
I promised mysef I wouldn't post on this topic. O.K, O.K. so I lied to myself again. I saw some info on this subject on another forum and the person made some good points but I don't remember the source so I will take a shot at it. It would seem that the lower tow ratings in the U S of A may be at least partially due to towing conditions. I checked on the web ( we all know that info on the web is 100% accurate, right ?). Using Germany as a representive sample the following info is relavent. Highest temperature ever recorded 104 degrees, highest mountain pass 9000 feet plus, speed limit (other than the autobahn ) probably no higher than 60 MPH (this is a guess I really don't have a clue) and you could easily cross the whole country in one day. Now to the U S of A highest temp recorded easily well north of 120 degrees, 37 paved mountain passes over 9000 feet in Colorado alone (14 over 10,000 feet, 8 over 11,000 feet and one over !2,000 feet) max speed limit 75 in much of the west. So whereas in Germany (at least) the highest pass you would encounter is a little over 9,000 feet and the highest temperature you would likely EVER encounter would be 104 degrees and you would most likely not ever exceed 60 MPH In The U S of A you could drive for days in some areas in 115 to 120 degree heat and then turn north into Colorado and traverse 22 mountain passes 10,000 to 12,000 feet all higher to much higher than the 9,000 feet in Germany and much of the time be cruising at much higher speeds than in Europe. The potential towing conditions in the U S of A, given the above, may justify the lower tow ratings as the potential drivetrain stress could be exponentially higher. Lee
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08-16-2010, 05:31 PM
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Not to mention that lawyers are more ready to sue for damages in the USA.
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08-16-2010, 06:12 PM
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Roy You are so right! There is always that. Lee
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08-16-2010, 06:32 PM
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Trailer: 2020 Escape 19 (was 2005 16 ft Scamp Side Dinette and 2005 Fleetwood (Coleman) Taos pop-up)
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Originally Posted by floyd
Been reading this exact anecdotal urban legend for years now.
Well fabricated, except it is without date,documentation, or any other form of credibility.
BE WARNED! You out there who believe everything you read.
If you believe that story, think about this poor guy....
Police Constable Abducted by Aliens
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One of the first sentences in that story mentions the Rendlesham Forest incident. That's the forest right next to RAF Woodbridge, where I worked in the contol tower. Interesting story, happened a few months after I left.
This is probably why European vehicles can tow more, they get extraterrestrial assistance.
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08-16-2010, 06:36 PM
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Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
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Thanks Lee,
But I have to admit, we are learning fast up here, and evolving to keep up with our southern neighbours. A lawyer client of mine when asked said $10G in damages is the entry level where one can recoup costs and a lawyer will start considering civil litigation on this side of the border.
Small claims is a futile process. Best left for forced apologies.
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