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Old 04-09-2013, 05:14 PM   #29
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thx deryk-but the propane just makes stress for me. i dont use it at all. i have a ball from casita-well...im not sure of the name of the part-but the big black metal thing that fits onto hitch-it has the pulling ball and then another one to ad anti-sway bar. so i have that.

then depending how much removing the propane helps with the way the car is pushed down...i should look into wdh and bags? so levelers are not something that would work here.

also-someone questioned about the bags working well when towing...but when you just drive the car is it less stable?

so many questions. i'm sorry. it will be worth it when i am fixed right i guess. thanks again.
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Old 04-09-2013, 05:42 PM   #30
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I drive Dailey with the airbags with zero problem....they can be deflated to return the cushy rear end if you prefer. I'm on my droid so I can't post links but their is a post here with real trailer weights in the real world and I looked into a Casita 17 but most of the tongue weights were way too heavy for Rav4 so I passed on it. I think with a trailer as tongue heavy as yours needs it but its up to you to decide...its your vehicle.

you need to post pictures...I think your talking about an anti sway bar...it is not going to help you with the squatting problem...might be handy when its windy out and you have sway like I did last weekend.

propane...welI i won't say anything on that one...
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:53 PM   #31
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i have a ball from casita-well...im not sure of the name of the part-but the big black metal thing that fits onto hitch-it has the pulling ball and then another one to ad anti-sway bar.
That's a ball mount (lots of examples: eTrailer Ball Mounts), with a tow ball plus a small ball for a friction-type sway control device. The ball mount is the part that everyone is explaining comes in different heights, so you choose the one which is right for your combination of the height of the receiver box (where the ball mount plugs in) and the height of the trailer coupler.

Ball mounts - also call drawbars - are really cheap, so it doesn't matter if you have one: get another one if you need a different height.
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:03 PM   #32
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Thanks Mike and Deryk - I will do the level ground check first and check the trailer hitch/ball. It's only the "big dips" in driveways that it happened, and only twice - I've had it just a few weeks. It traveled home just fine - and must admit, I didn't think when I put the ball on the hitch after I bought it.

Thanks for the advice! Can't wait for the first campout!
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:14 PM   #33
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Might have to wait a bit with the snow thats coming
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:10 AM   #34
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Tongue weight isn't a bad thing if the vehicle can support it. Generally the more tongue weight you can carry the better the trailer will pull.. I'm still a big fan of air bags if you need a little more load carrying capacity.
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Yes Arlon, if the vehicle can support it and from a little over 2 years of towing with my Rav4, it has a soft rear end even with the airbags in the rear the nose is still pointing up a bit. The Casita 17's are imho too heavy tongue wise for a Rav4 without some assistance. Trailer Weights in the Real World

Check out the weights and without a wdh a Rav4 is limited to a 350lbs and all the fiberglass trailers with front bathrooms are a little nose heavy.
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Old 04-10-2013, 08:25 AM   #36
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If you're still sagging with air bags, something isn't right. They should be able to lift the rear 2" above level with 1000+ pounds on the tongue (double those numbers on my truck). I have bags on my truck and van. Both will hold any load that doesn't break the hitch well above level. Even 500lbs on the tongue should be nothing to a pair of properly installed and inflated air bags. That 350lb limit goes right out the door with the bags installed, that's why you'd use them. WDH would be nice too..
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If you're still sagging with air bags, something isn't right. .........
Agree. The OP needs to do some weighing.
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Right now I'm having trouble with the Rav's braking system. The ABS, brake, idiot lights intermitantly come on, and the cruise control won't work then either. The Toyota disconnected the wiring for the trailer, and everything has been fine. I doubt if Toyota will take care of the problem because U-Haul did the work.
I assume that U-Haul did not just do the work, they provided the improper wiring adapter which is causing the problem. Too much load on the brake light circuit, or applying voltage to it when the brakes are not on, could confuse the car.

A simple wiring adapter gets the power from the trailer lights from the tug's light circuits - that's how mine works and there's no problem with my specific vehicle. A better design uses the tug's light circuits just for information, but has its own power supply from the battery. The RAV-4 may need the better converter, and the one very expensively sold by Toyota (and usually installed by a Toyota dealership) would likely not cause a problem.

Although the are many fans of U-Haul towing equipment and installation, they don't actually make any of it, none of it is specifically endorsed by ant auto manufacturer (to my knowledge), and U-Haul does not ensure that the staff at each location are knowledgeable or competent.

If this is an ongoing issue which needs more discussion, Isuggest a separate thread.
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Old 04-10-2013, 08:47 AM   #39
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...........If this is an ongoing issue which needs more discussion, Isuggest a separate thread.

I'd add that a good resource is a Toyota forum where other owners have likely encountered a similar issue, or etrailer, where the techs will answer specific questions and have an insight into manufacturer's electrical quirks.

Toyota RAV4 Forums : RAV4World.com

Contact etrailer.com - 800-298-8924
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Agree. The OP needs to do some weighing.
Agreed and post some pictures of it as well.

2" above level? I don't think so, my airbags are probably 2" (could be more, I didnt measure the distance) shorter then the springs so totally full its not going to lift the rear end up higher then without the airbags.

Now I don't buy into that useing the airbags will throw out the 350lb tongue limit...

In 2 weeks or so once I get my wdh installed and get a chance to get it weighed at the CAT scale like George mentioned we will get a chance to see what the front axle weight is without the trailer, with the trailer without wdh, and finally with the wdh...With the even heavier Casita 17 I would like to see those numbers on the other 2 new members Rav4's as well.
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What kind of bags did you get? The Goodyear RAV4 bags go inside the coils and are as long as the coil springs... If you have some universal bags, that might be the issue.
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Nope the firestone bags for my year and model Rav4. I guess its all in how they decide to make them. I thought about adding a thicker plastic piece at the bottom of the spring where the hose goes through... but it works fine but isn't going to raise it up higher then without the airbags.
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