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Old 01-28-2015, 10:58 AM   #29
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Sorry for your troubles Vicki. I agree with Jack L that a letter to Toyota Corporate is in order.

Consumer Reports liked the Santa Fe. Don't know it's tow limits, though.

Good luck!
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Old 01-28-2015, 11:27 AM   #30
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One does need to be specific as to model, year and .
Yup very true on pretty well all trucks and cars, thus the disclaimer at the bottom of my post as to other possible vehicles to consider:

"*Note tow caps are approx. may vary by year of vehicle and options."
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Old 01-28-2015, 11:35 AM   #31
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I would write a letter to Toyota Corporate customer service and explain your problem and your safety concerns. I would send it registered mail and I would not be critical of the dealer or the way this has been handled so far. In a recent experience I had with a Toyota ', the dealer called Toyota and Toyota said "no" to a repair but a letter to Toyota from me got Toyota to agree to put new heavier springs on my Tacoma after Toyota turned the dealer down.
I would do as Jack has suggested - and include copies of all the paper work from the dealer as to what they have done to date on the car to fix the problem. I also had a situation come up with Nissan a few weeks ago where the dealer said Sorry you will have to pay for the repair the truck has been off warranty by 4 months. A letter directly to Nissan's head office changed that situation around very quickly.
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Old 01-28-2015, 12:37 PM   #32
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To be upfront, you should have been writing to the NTSB from the first issue and every occurrence after that. That's the primary way that action is taken against auto manufacturers.


And you wrote: "And if I fully document the issues and report it to the NTSB, and then trade it in to the same dealership doing the investigation, it is then their duty to deal with their product that they sold me in a legally and ethically sound manner."(Bold Italics added)


And, somewhat tongue in cheek, I ask where you found a dealer with that attribute? We shopped about 5-6 Toyota dealers for a Tacoma about a year ago and couldn't find one like that!


Being worth about the same, here is my $.02 worth for a TV solution that works for us:
2003 Chev Blazer 2 dr. Up to 5800 lbs. towing capacity, reliable & proven drivetrain, fair MPG's, comfortable and looks really good.


In 2013 sold my former TV, a near perfect, 2003 4 cylinder Sonoma w/150k for $5000, and bought this one used w/50k miles, and full service records, for $7500. 100k fewer miles, V6 and a huge upgrade for $2500 more. And did I mention, the 2 dr Blazer (or GMC Jimmy) really looks good.
As the 2dr is seldom seen, here's that they look like:
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Old 01-28-2015, 08:06 PM   #33
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Vicki,
My Silverado did the same darn thing. Scared the heck out of me.
There was a recall for a carburetor part and that seemed to have solved it. Scary ,when you are sitting at a light and you have to push on the brake with all you might not to run into the car ahead !!! I shut the truck off , then it wouldn't start, had to have it towed in to the dealer.
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Old 01-28-2015, 09:24 PM   #34
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Hey Bobby, thanks for sharing your story. It is truly scary to have this happen.

Have been doing lots of research this evening. Eliminated the Ford Escape and Hyundai Santa Fe due to crash test issues. The three I seem to keep coming back to now are the GMC Terrain (surprisingly good crash test and reliability ratings, and 3500# towing capacity), Nissan Murano and Honda Pilot. I re-looked at the Pilot on Jon's suggestion, and it is only slightly more expensive than a similarly equipped Murano. Although I had written it off as too big, the mpg seems to be about the same as the Murano and Terrain, which have much less cargo capacity. I am actually concerned that the Murano and Terrain don't have enough space for what we travel with when we bring our kayaks (lots of gear), plus all our camping gear - - they both have lower cargo capacity than my Rav.

It seems kinda silly for little old me to be tooling around to work every day in a giant Honda Pilot by myself. But it might make sense.

And Bob, just so you know, I didn't knowingly fail to report this issue to the NTSB. When it happened over the summer, I didn't know it was an "unintended acceleration" issue. When I heard about those on the news years ago, I always though they were issues people had at high speeds on the highway, not sitting at a stop light. So when it happened back in August and I brought it to the dealer and they said they couldn't find anything, but it could be the tranny fluid, I had no reason to disagree or to think it was part of some other, hugely litigated issue. Then it didn't happen again until 10 days ago on our way to the airport for a vacation. We just got home late Sunday night, and now I am getting it checked out ASAP. I will send the report from the dealership to the NTSB as soon as I have it. Not trying to hide anything here. Just trying to solve a problem.
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A few of others to consider while your car shopping and if you happen to see one used on the lot are:

Toyota Venza the V6 has a tow cap of 3500lbs. A friend pulls an older Escape 17 if one and is very happy with it.

Toyota Highlander - some have a 5000lbs tow cap. Lots of folks here pulling with these. .....
Um, after the problems they're having with the Rav, I really doubt they would consider any Toyota models.
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Vicki, I think you have the patience of a saint. I would be far more upset about your problem. I remember when that problem surfaced, and just assumed Toyota must have a handle on it by now. For the record, I totally believe you. There have been too many cases for Toyota to dismiss it by insulting their customer base and blaming them for the problem. I've owned a Honda Civic and an Accord, and had nothing but good luck with them. You sound like a nice, reasonable person, and I wish you well.

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Here you go TomK. From the New York Times.

"In a sharp escalation of penalties against automakers that skirt safety laws, the nation’s top auto safety agency has fined Honda Motor a record $70 million for grossly underreporting fatal accidents and injuries to the government, regulators said on Thursday."

And I believe the cases you are referencing are different Vicki's issue, and have been admitted by Toyota.
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Quote from Post #34 " Not trying to hide anything here. Just trying to solve a problem."


No I hope I wasn't suggesting that. I thought that it had happened more times than you explained.


But the "Transmission Fluid" causing it? You might ask exactly how that could possibly have caused the engine to speed up, sounds pretty far fetched to moi. aka "The Brush Off".


FWIW: With that answer I would have been on the phone to Toyota corporate safety in a CT Minute.
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For five years I've been trying to get Toyota to explain why they say they don't recommend a weight distribution hitch.
So, all I can say, is good luck with that.
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Um, after the problems they're having with the Rav, I really doubt they would consider any Toyota models.
Yup I kind of thought of that as well, which is why i throw out a few other makes/modes others had not mentioned yet as possibilities to explore.
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Vicki, Regarding the Ford Escape, someone on this forum (I don't recall who) a year or so back had a devil of a time getting their new Escape's optional OEM 7-pin trailer wiring harness to power the electric brakes on his camper. Seemed like it should have been an easy fix for a trailer shop with an experienced wiring technician, but it was one thing after another. I don't recall who that was or if they ever solved all their wiring harness problems, but perhaps they'll chime in with an update if they see this post and can offer some advice regarding the Escape.

On another note, we have a friend who carries a pair of kayaks on top of his mid-sized pickup (Tacoma Double Cab) with a camper shell over the truck bed. The front kayak mounts are attached to the roof of the pickup, and the rear kayak mounts are attached to the roof of the camper shell. He travels a lot of rough dirt roads to remote sites, and the setup works great for him. So maybe give some thought to mid-sized pickups, too.

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On another note, we have a friend who carries a pair of kayaks on top of his mid-sized pickup (Tacoma Double Cab) with a camper shell over the truck bed. The front kayak mounts are attached to the roof of the pickup, and the rear kayak mounts are attached to the roof of the camper shell. He travels a lot of rough dirt roads to remote sites, and the setup works great for him.
That is just about the worst thing you can do to a kayak or canoe. On rough roads the bed of the truck twists in one direction and the cab in another. Great way to destroy your boat.
You need to mount both racks on either the cab roof, or on the canopy.
Another method is to have a rack supported by a pole from the front bumper and the other rack on the cab roof.
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