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Old 02-01-2015, 08:44 AM   #99
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I wanted a tow vehicle in the 6000 # range, 6 cylinder, rear wheel drive, with a tow package. The tow vehicle is second vehicle in our two-person household, so I didn't want to spend a lot of money on a vehicle that would be used primarily for snowbirding in the winter months. I kept coming back to the late models of the Jeep Grand Cherokee and its sister car the Dodge Durango as two vehicles that checked all the boxes. At $30k plus, I just could not pull the trigger.

A few weeks ago, I was searching with that criteria and up popped a bunch of new 2014 Chevy Silverado standard cab trucks on clearance as last year's models and deeply discounted. I got a 2014 standard cab, standard bed, 2 wheel drive, 6 cylinder, 6 speed with tow/haul mode, tow package, bedliner, chrome appearance package, power windows doors locks and mirrors, cruise, satellite radio, and upgraded upholstery. I put some credits I had from a GM credit card toward it, and it was out the door at $20k.

I never considered a pick up truck, but after a long, quiet, and smooth test drive, the price made it an easy decision. I think it will serve us well with a small fiberglass trailer (and in later years, if I can't shake this idea that eventually I'll end up with an Escape 5.0 TA!)
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I wanted a tow vehicle in the 6000 # range, 6 cylinder, rear wheel drive, with a tow package. The tow vehicle is second vehicle in our two-person household, so I didn't want to spend a lot of money on a vehicle that would be used primarily for snowbirding in the winter months. I kept coming back to the late models of the Jeep Grand Cherokee and its sister car the Dodge Durango as two vehicles that checked all the boxes. At $30k plus, I just could not pull the trigger.

A few weeks ago, I was searching with that criteria and up popped a bunch of new 2014 Chevy Silverado standard cab trucks on clearance as last year's models and deeply discounted. I got a 2014 standard cab, standard bed, 2 wheel drive, 6 cylinder, 6 speed with tow/haul mode, tow package, bedliner, chrome appearance package, power windows doors locks and mirrors, cruise, satellite radio, and upgraded upholstery. I put some credits I had from a GM credit card toward it, and it was out the door at $20k.

I never considered a pick up truck, but after a long, quiet, and smooth test drive, the price made it an easy decision. I think it will serve us well with a small fiberglass trailer (and in later years, if I can't shake this idea that eventually I'll end up with an Escape 5.0 TA!)
I bought a new Ram pickup in Oct of 2011 for $23,800 , I traded in the 2011 truck with 60,000 miles on it in Dec of 2014 for $19,500 . I loo looked for a 2014 Chevy during the model year clearance but there was not a dealer within 50 miles that had any left. So congratulations ,hope you enjoy your new truck . Once you get used to driving a truck ,at least for me ,it is hard to go back to a small cramped car . My wife likes driving my truck more than her Pontiac G6 .
I may end up trading in her car for the new Chevy midsize truck or buy myself another truck and give her mine.
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Old 02-01-2015, 10:28 AM   #101
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I bought a new Ram pickup in Oct of 2011 for $23,800 , I traded in the 2011 truck with 60,000 miles on it in Dec of 2014 for $19,500 .
Steve... besides getting the good deal was there any other reason for trading in a relatively new vehicle?? These days we are getting over 15 years of good service out of our vehicles with very few problems.
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Steve... besides getting the good deal was there any other reason for trading in a relatively new vehicle?? These days we are getting over 15 years of good service out of our vehicles with very few problems.
The truck was coming to the point of needing a lot of scheduled /regular maintenance . The transmission ,rearend ,4 wheel transfer case needed a fluid/ filter change. needed new tires , shocks & brakes were worn ,spark plugs needed to be replaced (16 plugs), air filter and several other things I can not recall at this moment needed servicing. Adding up the cost to perform the listed maintenance / repair items and the loss of trade in value by waiting another year was enough to sway us into buying a new truck . Plus the 2011 truck lacked many options which we wanted. We mainly use our truck for towing . If one follows the maintenance schedule listed in the owners manual for vehicles used in towing , the listed mileage are basically cut in half so all the normal 100,000 mile maintenance items were coming due
I did not want to stick $2K to $3K or more into a truck with over 60,000 miles . In the past I have driven our vehicles into the ground to the point of the repair costs exceeding the vehicle's value ,never again. Plus I don't enjoy working on cars especially at my age and outside in the winter.
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Old 02-01-2015, 12:10 PM   #103
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Plus I don't enjoy working on cars especially at my age and outside in the winter.
I'm with you on that one Steve. No fun at all. Back in the 70's I recall replacing a head gasket on my 70 AMX on a cold blustery day out side in the parking lot at the apartment I was renting at the time. Brutal!!!

Thnxs for the update on your trade specs.
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I will call our trailer guy about removing the brake controller. Glad to hear the Frontier is all wired up!
You should be able to simple remove it yourself. If its a Tekonsha Prodigy/P2 the wires to it are all together on a harness that just clips into the back of the controller. To remove it, take the controller out of the holder. To remove the wiring harness from the back of it - there is a little clip on the top of the wiring harness right at the controller that can be hard to see but it needs to be pressed and the wiring connection will just pop out. There are lots of online videos as to how to do it.

Assuming your Frontier already has the Brake Controller plug and play connection installed - Its white and its located just under the dash by your right knee, you will need to purchase a Tekonsha (or what ever brand of controller you have) Electric Brake Control Plug in Wiring harness for your Nissan. The dealer probable doesnt have one but you can get them from E-trailer - Tekonsha Plug in Wiring Adapter for Electric Brake Controller. E- trailer offers great service and fast shipping.

The hardest part of installing the controller in the Frontier is picking a spot to mount it. The harness comes with lots of wire so lots of places you can put the controller. I had to coil up the extra wire and hide what I did not use up under the dash with a zip tie. If you go to the Nissan Frontier Forum there are posts on where/how people have mounted the controller. I ended up using removable mounting bracket on mine but did not screw it into place - used heavy duty marine velcro and mounted as far right as I could - it actually sits part way in the gap between the lower centre console and the dash where the heater and radio controls are. Like it there as it is a very easy reach if I ever need to use the manual lever and I don't need to look down to find the controller. Been there for a year and has not come loose.
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Floyd, Comments like yours indicate either vastly superior knowledge of the automotive industry or a clear indication you have never read Consumer Reports.....Consumer Reports tests every vehicle to exacting standards...they also gather data about older vehicles to establish their long term durability and reliability. If you have a problem with that you may be beyond all hope.

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I have of course read Consumer Reports enough to see the pattern of bias.
I guess I would feel beyond all hope if I didn't know enough about the auto industry to pick a vehicle without Consumer Reports sales pitch.
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Old 02-01-2015, 01:55 PM   #106
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Update: spent all day at dealer, test drove a variety of tvs, ended up with Nissan Frontier SV, brand new. Heated seats and backup camera, but no leather. Sirius radio though, which I wanted. Never bought new before but got a good deal. On our way out of town for weekend but will post more on Monday re: RAV. Thanks all!
Vicki, Great call IMHO! We were ready to make the jump to a new Frontier until I read that they might have a small diesel engine option coming soon. I'm a big diesel fan for towing, so I'm willing to wait another year or two to see what materializes and user reviews (and yes, we value Consumer Reports reviews for everything from can openers to cars). Our current primary tow vehicle (2002 Highlander) still gets the job done fine, but the miles keep piling up (~140,000 miles). Regarding leather seats - living in the deep south, I'm not a big fan. Parked in the sun on a hot August day, that leather can burn the back of your legs, and they just don't breath as well as cloth seats, so then the back of your legs can get a bit sweaty, too (I know, too much information!). But up north, I know you'll love them...

Also, there is a company that makes after-market replacement outside mirrors for the Frontier that extend for a better rear view. They use the same factory remote control plus they extend for a better rear view and are heated (to remove ice and fog). They are mentioned in another "Towing" thread on FGRV that discusses extension mirrors. So check out that thread and see if you might want to put on a set of those, too.

Enjoy that new Frontier! Dale
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What will they charge to remove the cloth and add leather? Is there any advantage to that process versus buying a custom leather seat cover that slips on (tightly)?
Exact Fit Seat Covers - GTCovers.com Here's a place that makes real leather covers for under $400 per row, or get "leatherette" (hard to tell the difference, probably) for $229. You only need to buy the front row covers, and they can be either left on or taken off when selling.
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Thanks for the compliment!
I have of course read Consuer Reports enough to see the pattern of bias.
I guess I would feel beyond all hope if I didn't know enough about the auto industry to pick a vehicle without Consumer Reports sales pitch.
Vehicles are not the only subject area where CR has a known pattern of bias
Their testing criteria is often slanted to produce CR's desired results.
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Also, there is a company that makes after-market replacement outside mirrors for the Frontier that extend for a better rear view. They use the same factory remote control plus they extend for a better rear view and are heated (to remove ice and fog). They are mentioned in another "Towing" thread on FGRV that discusses extension mirrors.

Enjoy that new Frontier! Dale
CIPA makes the best custom slip-on extension mirrors,check them out.
that's prollythe company to which you refer.
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Best extension mirrors are Milenco Grand Aero. http://www.milenco.com/products/mirr...towing-mirror/
This is link to Milenco site, but I believe you can get them at Costco.

Link to thread on replacement mirrors for Frontier:
Trailer Tow Mirrors for a Nissan Frontier!!!
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Also, there is a company that makes after-market replacement outside mirrors for the Frontier that extend for a better rear view. They use the same factory remote control plus they extend for a better rear view and are heated (to remove ice and fog). They are mentioned in another "Towing" thread on FGRV that discusses extension mirrors.

Enjoy that new Frontier! Dale
CIPA makes the best custom slip-on extension mirrors,check them out.
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We also traded our 2004 Chrysler minivan for a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee V6 after looking at just about all cars posted here except pickups as my wife didn't want a truck. We looked for enough towing capacity with a nice margin and ease of setting it up for towing. The 6200# towing capacity and setup with the towing package, just plug in the brake controller and go. As an added bonus, the minivan got about 13 MPG towing and the JGC gets about 17 MPG, a significant upgrade. I attribute it to the 8 speed transmission and a nice V6 engine. With the 25 gallon fuel tank, we go about twice as far before needing to stop for gas. Consumer Reports rated it good at first, then revised downward due to the radio/ entertainment center. It works OK but it tends to lose settings which is annoying but not dangerous. So far, so good.
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