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Old 09-07-2013, 11:42 AM   #15
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'06 4runner 4litre 6. Burro 17 @ 3200 lbs. Might drive in fifth in a tailwind but normally fourth. 15+mpg regular gas.

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Old 09-07-2013, 11:48 AM   #16
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Very true. It does help I'm a mechanic and can handle most anything that comes up.

Some people have even suggested a cheaper American vehicle that most any shop outside of the bigger cities can fix, as opposed to higher MPG import.

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Old 09-07-2013, 11:55 AM   #17
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Norm I've always believed that the 10% premium and the poor record of the 80's GM diesels are the two reasons the US, and subsequently Canada, has had such a lack of diesels in passenger cars for far too long, when it's almost the standard in Europe.

Here our diesel is about the same price as gas and often cheaper yet we are limited to the same poor selection of diesel powered vehicles

I've had diesel Volvo and Jetta and despite engine problems with both of them, would gladly have another one but know our next vehicle is very likely to be gas.

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Old 09-07-2013, 11:57 AM   #18
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While not as much travel trailer towing experience as Norm and Ginny I have been towing since before I had a license. And I have the same upside down towing setup as them.

We have towed from Michigan to Florida and round trip to Kentucky. From Michigan we averaged 30 MPG and the Kentucky trip average was 28 MPG. The rest of the time I get between 45-50 MPG. I try to keep speeds between 55-60 when towing and at or below 70 when not towing.

I think diesel will be the only reasonable way to get the mileage numbers you want without huge changes in how you drive. And like people pointed out the high mileage of newer cars is a lot about air flow. Of which towing a huge brick/parachute behind you is going to destroy.

Oh, and look closely at the trailer as well as the tow vehicle. A smooth, aero trailer will make as big a difference on the highway as a high mileage tow vehicle.

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This truly amazing MPG towing any trailer. What is your tow vehicle?

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Old 09-07-2013, 12:01 PM   #19
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We would like something that gets over 20mpg towing and 30mpg not towing is this possible ?
No. Definitely not with the size trailer you propose. They have not repealed the laws of physics.
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Old 09-07-2013, 01:05 PM   #20
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Adrian,

I was pleased to see diesel at the same price as gas in Canada and met a couple people towing with a VW. My primary concern is their reliability record and their high cost of regular service. You can buy a lot of gas if the vehicle is not reliable.

With the Honda the biggest service items have been a regular $21 oil change, brake pads and spark plus once.
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Old 09-07-2013, 01:25 PM   #21
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I think Norm and Ginny must have 2 big angels pushing their Honda all the time, to get such great fuel economy out of a gas engine.

Jason has a VW diesel, I think... isn't that right, Jason?

I am wondering if the Chevy Cruze diesel would do about as well. Of course, a custom hitch setup would be the only way I'd consider such a rig.
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Old 09-07-2013, 01:56 PM   #22
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Mike,

I think part of our good mileage is having the instantaneous mpg and other items displayed on our Ultra Guage. It encourages me to be conscious of mpg. Not so much for Ginny, there's about a 3 mpg difference when she drives.
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Old 09-07-2013, 02:15 PM   #23
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Although diesel engines are held out at the solution to all towing and fuel consumption problems, the new Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel only claims "up to 30 mpg" under ideal non-towing conditions. I believe that there is little chance this or the Ram 1500 coming with the same engine will haul a ton and half or more of trailer and get 20 mpg(US).

Norm achieves great fuel economy, but his Scamp 16 is the lightest and narrowest of the range of trailers being considered, and he drives very carefully. I don't think it is reasonable to expect to match this performance, expecially with a bigger trailer.
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Old 09-07-2013, 02:36 PM   #24
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I got 20 mpg towing my T@da with a weight around 2900# with my 4 cyl Jeep Liberty CRD consistently. Not towing I got 30 mpg. Granted the Ram is bigger and heavier, but the engine is also bigger and more powerful. It may be achievable.
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The bigger and more powerful engine is unlikely to help fuel economy, so combined with greater tow vehicle weight (and bigger high-drag tires), the Grand Cherokee and Ram 1500 are unlikely to even match the Liberty CRD with the same trailer.

It may indeed be achievable, but I wouldn't get a nickel on it.
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Old 09-07-2013, 02:55 PM   #26
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Norm, do you on occasion calculate mpg fill to fill? Does an '04 CRV have a proprietary mileage/range/average speed readout from the OBD? How does your Ultraguage mpg compare to results obtained by these methods which are in common use?
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:18 PM   #27
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My tow is a 2010 Toyota Tacoma crew cab V-6.
The last time I checked I averaged 16 mpg pulling my Snoozy.
The one thing I don't like about this truck is you have to figure
mileage tank to tank like in the old days. No meter to watch
going down the road. I do watch the RPM gauge while driving.

I think non-towing I may average 19 mpg. I've hit 24 mpg once in a while.
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The one thing I don't like about this truck is you have to figure mileage tank to tank like in the old days. No meter to watch going down the road.
There are devices which plug into the vehicle's OBD (on-board diagnostics) port and display the same information as built-in fuel economy displays. I have a cheap one that I have used occasionally in our Sienna and my Focus.
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