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Old 03-25-2011, 06:30 AM   #15
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I installed a Prodigy on a 2003 Tundra. It was not prewired for a brake controller although the models with the factory tow package might be? Tell your installer that the brake light wire can be found in the wire bundle under the door frame plate. It's much easier to get to there than at the pedal switch. Enjoy your Tundra, I wish I still had mine. Raz
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:55 AM   #16
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It's a 2000 Tundra - is that considered a late model?
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The adapter plug that is needed only goes back to 2003 for your model truck on "etrailer" so your truck may not have the plug and play setup in which case you would need a professional to wire the plug with wires to the rear bumper area.... (if your truck came with a tow package everything may be there but i'm not sure on your vehicle)You get a universal plug included with the prodigy. A call to etrailer would confirm this.
Question; Do you already have the seven pin round bargman plug at the rear bumper?______ Or do you have the four pin flat plug?______
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don't use this plug as it only goes back to 2003 tundra;
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:58 AM   #17
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Hi Jane -- we're in the same position and decided to order the wireless version of the Prodigy. It's certainly more costly than the wired version, but works out cheaper for us because our vehicle would otherwise require installation at the VW dealer (yuck). Haven't purchased it yet, but it's supposed to be ultra easy to install and switch to different vehicles (a useful feature if we loan the trailer to friends as planned). Just another idea for you : )

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It's a 2000 Tundra - is that considered a late model?
Probably not. But I don't have experience with Toyotas, only GM, Dodge, and Volvo. Volvo was tough. Dodge was easy. Early 2000's GM wasn't bad.

Uhaul dealers around here install brake controllers. You might try calling there to find out about what UHaul would charge.

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Old 03-25-2011, 06:03 PM   #19
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The stock 2000 Tundra (or any 1st generation Tundra) does not have a pre-wired brake controller option. Do you already have a flat 4 plug next to your hitch? If you do, then you should only need to run the brake and +12volt wires. If you don't have a flat 4, then you'll need a converter box that plugs into existing wiring near the bumper, which converts the separate amber turn signals and brake lights into the standard flat 4 type configuration. Etrailer should have what you need if you decide to do it yourself.
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The stock 2000 Tundra (or any 1st generation Tundra) does not have a pre-wired brake controller option. Do you already have a flat 4 plug next to your hitch? If you do, then you should only need to run the brake and +12volt wires. If you don't have a flat 4, then you'll need a converter box that plugs into existing wiring near the bumper, which converts the separate amber turn signals and brake lights into the standard flat 4 type configuration. Etrailer should have what you need if you decide to do it yourself.
While mine came with a 4 pin socket, I know some came with a 7 pin and hitch. I always assumed those had a brake controller pigtail under the dash. Did Toyota leave the brake pin on the 7 pin connector unused? Imagine paying all that money for a factory hitch and then discovering it was going to cost you more!
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Old 03-26-2011, 04:10 PM   #21
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Thanks all. I had sinus surgery yesterday but will check to see what exists - hopefully tomorrow. I know the hitch receiver came with the tundra originally and that there is wiring there, but I don't know if it's 4 or 7 pin. I'll check and update tomorrow.
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Old 03-28-2011, 11:18 AM   #22
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We have the 4 pin plug next to the hitch. According to etrailer we need this: http://www.etrailer.com/p-ETBC7.html and one of these: 2000 Toyota Tundra Trailer Wiring Harness | etrailer.com and the brake controller (such as: 2000 Toyota Tundra Brake Controllers with Custom Fit Wiring Harness | etrailer.com). I'm not up for talking on the phone yet, but if anyone can verify that this is correct, I'd sure appreciate it. It looks like someone would need to know what they were doing to install something like this.
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While mine came with a 4 pin socket, I know some came with a 7 pin and hitch. I always assumed those had a brake controller pigtail under the dash. Did Toyota leave the brake pin on the 7 pin connector unused? Imagine paying all that money for a factory hitch and then discovering it was going to cost you more!
From the factory, at least for 2000 and 2001, I don't believe there was a 7-pin wiring harness available, it was a 4-flat only with factory tow hitch. If the truck did have a 7-pin, it could have been dealer added, a port added option, or the owner added it aftermarket.
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Jane, you don't need the "Trailer Wiring Harness - 2000 Toyota Tundra" since you said you have a 4-flat plug next to your hitch. You might want to get a multimeter or a test light to check that the plug actually works just to be sure. You definitely need the brake controller. And the first item, the conversion kit, conveniently has everything else you need to convert to a 7 pin plug. I didn't use a kit, I just cut off my 4 flat and ran the extra wires, bought the extra stuff that I needed to hook up a new plug.

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We have the 4 pin plug next to the hitch. According to etrailer we need this: Brake Controller 7 & 4 Way Installation Kit - 10 Gauge etrailer Brake Controller ETBC7 and one of these: 2000 Toyota Tundra Trailer Wiring Harness | etrailer.com and the brake controller (such as: 2000 Toyota Tundra Brake Controllers with Custom Fit Wiring Harness | etrailer.com). I'm not up for talking on the phone yet, but if anyone can verify that this is correct, I'd sure appreciate it. It looks like someone would need to know what they were doing to install something like this.
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Jane, you don't need the "Trailer Wiring Harness - 2000 Toyota Tundra" since you said you have a 4-flat plug next to your hitch. You might want to get a multimeter or a test light to check that the plug actually works just to be sure. You definitely need the brake controller. And the first item, the conversion kit, conveniently has everything else you need to convert to a 7 pin plug. I didn't use a kit, I just cut off my 4 flat and ran the extra wires, bought the extra stuff that I needed to hook up a new plug.
I will make sure it works, thank you. Was it easy to do? Would a general handy person be able to do it (with the conversion kit) or should I take it to a specialist? thanks!
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Whether it's easy or hard depends on your skill level and if you've done auto wiring before. It's not complicated work, but I remember it took me a lot of time.

Some of the things I found hard was, I had to drill through the firewall to run the blue brake wire, +12, and ground wires into the passenger compartment to the brake controller. On the driver's side kick panel, there's a big bundle of wires, you have to locate the brake "signal" wire to tap into for the controller. I added in a relay to the +12 output on the 7 pin plug, so that it would only supply current when I had a key in the ignition (this prevents the trailer from draining your truck battery when the truck is not running). You'll also have to run the extra wires wires from the tow hitch area, along the frame of the truck, up into the engine compartment, to the battery, and to the passenger compartment. Plus you'll need to mount the actual brake controller itself, I took out my ashtray and put the controller there. Now that I think about it, it really took up my whole weekend!
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Now that I think about it, it really took up my whole weekend!
I think I'll pay to have it done! Thanks!
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One hopefully final question - it seems that the wiring kit (Brake Controller 7 & 4 Way Installation Kit - 10 Gauge etrailer Brake Controller ETBC7 ) is designed for someone who is going to do it themselves and that a professional who would install a brake controller would have these parts. Does anyone know if that is correct? I don't mind buying the kit, but it might save some money (or not!) not to.
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