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Old 03-02-2012, 08:01 AM   #1
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I recently purchased a 2008 trailer that was never used except for towing home. It was in storage since new. I purchased the trailer in November 2011 and it has been in my garage ever since. I am planning 2000 mile trip in a couple of weeks. The trailer has a 3000 pound GVW and weights approx. 2300 pounds dry.
It has a single axle and ST205/75R15 tires. The tires look brand new with no checking. My concern is with a single axle and the possible blow out. I am thinking there is a lot of RVer's on this website that have experience with single axles. Is there any advise or precautions that I should be taking. It has a spare mounted on the trailer.
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Old 03-02-2012, 08:21 AM   #2
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Johnnie, I'd replace them. Tires rot from the inside out, so no checking and looking good really doesn't mean much. There's been a lot of discussion about replacing tires when they've "aged" five years. Every tire has a born on date, which is the date of manufacture... not the date the tire was mounted on a wheel. That's the important date to keep in mind. If you're looking to save, I'd buy two new tires and keep the best of the current three as a spare. I only consider a spare as a necessity to get me off the road and to the tire store. Others will have more info. Safe travels!
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:03 AM   #3
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Yes Donna is right, With the tires four years old and a long trip, do your self a favor and get new ones, it would be the best thing you could do for planning your trip.
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Old 03-02-2012, 12:47 PM   #4
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I just purchased 3 new tires for my Scamp .The dealer told me 4 to 5 years and then replace the tires. My dealer also said in most cases they fail from weather , hitting an object or UV damage long before they wear out from mileage. Like Donna says they rot from the inside . There is a peace of mind factor with new tires which is hard to put a value on.
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Old 03-02-2012, 01:25 PM   #5
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I just purchased 3 new tires for my Scamp .The dealer told me 4 to 5 years and then replace the tires. My dealer also said in most cases they fail from weather , hitting an object or UV damage long before they wear out from mileage. Like Donna says they rot from the inside . There is a peace of mind factor with new tires which is hard to put a value on.
The obvious question then is... How does "weather, hitting an object or UV" manage to cause damage from the inside out?It's kinda dark and dry inside and it has a liner.
Dry rot or cracking from UV is almost always evident in the tread or sidewall from the outside.
Caution... What you think is peace of mind , may just be complacency, and we know the cost(if not the value) of that.
Trust the calendar if you choose , but trust inspection more.
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BTW; My present set of tires are approaching 30,000 miles now and will likely be replaced this year due to treadwear.
As for their age? 4 years next month. My spare is from '03 (it's a "B" rated Marathon in good shape) How old is that minispare in your trunk?
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The obvious question then is... How does "weather, hitting an object or UV" manage to cause damage from the inside out?It's kinda dark and dry inside and it has a liner.
Dry rot or cracking from UV is almost always evident in the tread or sidewall from the outside.
Caution... What you think is peace of mind , may just be complacency, and we know the cost(if not the value) of that.
Trust the calendar if you choose , but trust inspection more.
Regards;Floyd

BTW; My present set of tires are approaching 30,000 miles now and will likely be replaced this year due to treadwear.
As for their age? 4 years next month. My spare is from '03 (it's a "B" rated Marathon in good shape) How old is that minispare in your trunk?
I NEVER said that UV or hitting an object causes rot from the inside
Many of the problems with trailer tires are due to their particular usage and design .. I may not be a learned as you so I called Goodyear and talked to them about tire usage. I check my tires for air pressure , wear and damage every time I use my trailer. I guess I need you to define complacency for me evidently I am not capable to do this on my own. The 4 to 5 year statement came from several tire dealers and tire mfgs and is a general rule of thumb . I feel safer towing with new tires than with 8 year old tire and since it's my trailer and my money and my safety it's my choice
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Old 03-02-2012, 03:20 PM   #7
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Thanks for the responses. Now the obvious question. Where is the best place to buy trailer tires? There are many tire dealers in my area but I suspect that they specialize in car/truck tires. Also, there is a Camping World about 20 miles away, a couple of RV dealers and shop that specializes in utility trailers. I would also like to have my bearings repacked. I will probably just start calling but would appreciate some suggestions.

Just as a comment, I owned a 19ft Concord tandem axle travel trailer from 1977 to 1987. I never touched the tires other than check the pressure. I never had a problem, in fact, I didn't have a spare. I guess I was young and foolish. But, the idea of having a single axle bothers me.
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Old 03-02-2012, 03:31 PM   #8
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Johnnie,

was the trailer stored inside? and was the weight taken off the tires when it was stored?

personally I'd run with them, but if you have any concerns, it would be better to change them out.

I don't about other areas, but Here, the tire dealers ( some anyway) will put your tires on a used tire rack, and sell them as "lightly used" without a warranty.
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Old 03-02-2012, 03:38 PM   #9
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Thanks for the responses. Now the obvious question. Where is the best place to buy trailer tires? There are many tire dealers in my area but I suspect that they specialize in car/truck tires............
I plan to buy my tires from Costco. They have to order them, but I have high confidence in Costco and their prices are good. Alternatively, tire dealers like Belle or Discount tire also carry trailer tires.
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Old 03-02-2012, 03:50 PM   #10
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I was told by the seller that the trailer was stored inside. The poor guy that originally purchase the trailer passed away two weeks later. The trailer was stored inside until the estate was settled. I have stored it in my garage since I purchase it. That's a nice feature of a Hi Lo.

Will Costco mount and balance the tires? I have a Costco and Sam's Club membership. There is a Belle Tire about a mile from my house.
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Old 03-02-2012, 03:52 PM   #11
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Last summer,I decide to gussy up my 82 Scamp and bought some new rims and tires.I kept the old ones,so now I travel with three spares.I go to remote places in northern WI,MN,and MI.Ain't no triple A,and even if there were,good luck with cell coverage.It's peace of mind for me.And I've heard peoples' concerns about 13 inch tires.I'm thinking of changing the Scamp axle for a Casita w/ 15 inch rubber,but wheel well clearance might be a problem.
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Old 03-02-2012, 04:05 PM   #12
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I NEVER said that UV or hitting an object causes rot from the inside.
Many of the problems with trailer tires are due to their particular usage and design .. I may not be a learned as you so I called Goodyear and talked to them about tire usage. I check my tires for air pressure , wear and damage every time I use my trailer. I guess I need you to define complacency for me evidently I am not capable to do this on my own. The 4 to 5 year statement came from several tire dealers and tire mfgs and is a general rule of thumb . I feel safer towing with new tires than with 8 year old tire and since it's my trailer and my money and my safety it's my choice
Please,It was not my intent to be confrontational at all.

You may not have said that directly, but you did quote your dealer and Donna....

"My dealer also said in most cases they fail from weather , hitting an object or UV damage long before they wear out from mileage. Like Donna says they rot from the inside ".

That triggered what I thought was the obvious question.
None of the above reasons, given for tire failure, affect the tire from the inside in any significant way.
I was only saying that the "peace of mind" which can be had with new tires should not preclude regular inspection which would then be complacency.
Also I pointed out that I (for one) do wear them out before they are timed out. I would not go beyond a prudent time frame.
It's my spare which is 8 years old, I may replace it next cycle just for grinnsies, in the mean time I will risk it failing while hanging on the back of the trailer or for the few miles to the next tire dealer.
I applaud your desire for safety and your willingness to take steps to secure it! Also ,I am sure you can define complacency without my help.
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Old 03-02-2012, 04:06 PM   #13
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Just a random observation:

Many many folks now drive zillions of miles in their cars & vans & SUV's and pickups etc without ever having a flat tire - yet somehow it seems that NONE of us can get past the street corner without tire issues on our trailers....

(Yes, the only flat/blowouts I have had in the last 15 years (likely more...) has been on my trailer, too!)

Just one of those things that make you go "hmmmmm......."

No, you are not being paranoid about the possibility of tire issues on your trailer - and that is what concerns me! Car tires - at least in my household - wear out long before giving troubles, but trailer tires seem to become unreliable shortly after initial purchase!
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Just a random observation:

Many many folks now drive zillions of miles in their cars & vans & SUV's and pickups etc without ever having a flat tire - yet somehow it seems that NONE of us can get past the street corner without tire issues on our trailers....

(Yes, the only flat/blowouts I have had in the last 15 years (likely more...) has been on my trailer, too!)

Just one of those things that make you go "hmmmmm......."

No, you are not being paranoid about the possibility of tire issues on your trailer - and that is what concerns me! Car tires - at least in my household - wear out long before giving troubles, but trailer tires seem to become unreliable shortly after initial purchase!
I do pay what seems an inordinate amount of attention my trailer tires, but in at least the last twenty-five years, I have not had a flat tire on any trailer which I have towed including my car trailer or my car dolly.
I just sold the car dolly with 21 year old tires on it.
I won't deny that I am constantly blessed, but I would still give some of the credit to regular pretrip inspection.
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