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Old 08-08-2011, 01:24 PM   #15
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You should give the Subaru Forester a good look. Lots of folks towing 13' with those.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:35 PM   #16
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Possibly a bit of overkill for a 13 footer. It is rated to tow more than three times what my Scamp weighs! Of course, if it were sold in the US, they'd probably drop the tow rating to 500 pounds.
People were amazed that I towed with my '81 Rabbit diesel. It was very slow with 48 hp, and I pulled over at times to let people pass, but I had every confidence that nothing would break. I also had a second fuel tank, 20 gallons total--which gave me a 650 to 800 mile range. I could drive all over the place and never have to put fuel in it. Typically I got around 37-38, and less 32-34 if I drove it hard. 32mpg was basically floored all the time including downhill to make it up the next hill. I probably got around 28 towing the trailer. On long stretches of flat ground it did well.

The point I'm trying to make is that with a diesel you can tow with a manual transmission. I would never tow with an automatic unless it was an Alison behind a Duramax.

I'm a sailor, when I cruise, the idea is to minimize expenses. This is why diesel appeals to me. Plus it is a safer fuel.

The trade off with a diesel is trailering will be even slower, but you will get the best possible fuel economy. If I had a camper and a comfortable place to be, who cares if you have to drive slower and stop more often? Slower is also safer. I escaped a 30 car pile up on black ice because I was driving slower.
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Possibly a bit of overkill for a 13 footer. It is rated to tow more than three times what my Scamp weighs! Of course, if it were sold in the US, they'd probably drop the tow rating to 500 pounds.
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You should give the Subaru Forester a good look. Lots of folks towing 13' with those.
I drove a 2008 Forester. Installing a tow hitch was easy. It had a fair amount of power. I did not tow with it, but it was peppy enough to do it. Ours was an automatic--a five speed would have been better. I nearly bought an Outback five speed for a tow vehicle. I'm impressed with the build quality of these cars.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:59 PM   #18
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Barrie, What do you get for highway mileage when you are not towing?
The EPA rating is 23 mpg city/27.5 mpg highway. I get 30 mpg city and about 35 mpg highway. I drive carefully. I don't accelerate too quickly and I drive 55 on the highway when I can without disrupting the traffic flow. I live in a very rural area so my driving style is easy. If I lived in a more congested area my fuel economy wouldn't be positive as it is now.
A TDI will get better milage and provide better torque but diesel isn't available at all stations and is more expensive. If I could find a low milage (less than 100,000 miles) at a good price I'd be tempted but... TDI's are more expensive to buy and maintain so overall the advantage is a coin flip.
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:23 PM   #19
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The EPA rating is 23 mpg city/27.5 mpg highway. I get 30 mpg city and about 35 mpg highway. I drive carefully. I don't accelerate too quickly and I drive 55 on the highway when I can without disrupting the traffic flow. I live in a very rural area so my driving style is easy. If I lived in a more congested area my fuel economy wouldn't be positive as it is now.
A TDI will get better milage and provide better torque but diesel isn't available at all stations and is more expensive. If I could find a low milage (less than 100,000 miles) at a good price I'd be tempted but... TDI's are more expensive to buy and maintain so overall the advantage is a coin flip.
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Old 08-11-2011, 09:22 AM   #21
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It's not the smallest, but I'd take a look at the Jeep Patriot. The engine oil cooler gives 2000 pound towing capacity, and it gets very good mileage with the manual transmission (if it's not a problem for you).
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Old 08-25-2011, 04:47 PM   #22
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Hey All,

I'm looking for a newer vehicle, my current is a 2000 Honda Civic, but I'm looking for something that will be good on fuel AND can tow my 13' Boler, up north never more than 5 hour drive.

I really like TDI's, but I'm thinking that won't quite do it. Google is useless for finding an official towing capacity, but I'm wondering if anyone would know if the jetta wagon would do it? The mk4s. My budget is around $5000.

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I am going to put a hitch on my 2011 TDI wagon and pull my surfside and I don't think it's a problem, google small cars pulling caravans and you'll be surprised at what they pull.
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Old 08-25-2011, 05:27 PM   #23
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:38 PM   #25
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Hey All,

I'm looking for a newer vehicle, my current is a 2000 Honda Civic, but I'm looking for something that will be good on fuel AND can tow my 13' Boler, up north never more than 5 hour drive.

I really like TDI's, but I'm thinking that won't quite do it. Google is useless for finding an official towing capacity, but I'm wondering if anyone would know if the jetta wagon would do it? The mk4s. My budget is around $5000.

Suggestions?
You are talking about a very light trailer 1300 many cars can do the job.
I do beleive though trailer brakes are a good idea for any load over 500 lbs though. The 1300 should only need a class 1 hitch and maybe a sway bar setup?
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:17 AM   #27
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The smallest car that can tow?

Saw this at Yellowstone.
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Smallerst towing vehicle

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Saw this at Yellowstone.
Good joke, but Smart Fortwo are limited to VERY light towing capacity due to VERY flimsy rear bumper steel inserts into a light aluminium bumper.

Really, you must consider the maximum gross weight of your trailer (fully loaded max autorized weight) and find a matched vehicle for this load with a professionnaly installed hitch. Your car insurance will not cover if your trailer overloads the towing vehicle. Preferably you should look for electric brakes and a proportionnal brake controller (not just ON/OFF). The lighter and the shorter the towing vehicle, the more you will need anti-sway bar and electric brakes.

Towing capacity is often considerably increased by adding an automatic transmission cooler. Transmission internal plastic bushings willl otherwise overheat and fail prematurely. This will provide the towing power, but not the stopping power you need. Towing rating often specify that it requires independent brakes on the trailer: go ahead and read the fine prints of the specs !!! Another advantage of adding brakes on the trailer is that the towing vehicle brakes will last considerably longer. If you are towing for any significant distance in hills, independent brakes on the RV will pay for itself within a couple of seasons.

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