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Old 09-14-2013, 09:06 AM   #15
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The frame on mine was strengthened somewhat extra, I was told by Alan. But the axle is still just a 3500 lb axle. So, I don't know.

How far away from the trailer body do your wheels stick out, Bill?
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Old 09-14-2013, 09:57 AM   #16
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The frame on mine was strengthened somewhat extra, I was told by Alan. But the axle is still just a 3500 lb axle. So, I don't know.

How far away from the trailer body do your wheels stick out, Bill?
Frame to outside of tire is 20 inches.
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Old 09-14-2013, 11:42 AM   #17
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Putting trailer and axle manufacturers aside; this is a good example of why one should choose a bolt on option (if available) when replacing their axle. Yes the axle is intended to last a long time - but stuff happens.

It would be nice if the manufactures considered the need to replace an axle after an untoward event during their initial build. Bolt on is a low cost one time insurance expense.
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Old 09-14-2013, 01:33 PM   #18
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Hmmmm... I'm a littlr late in the conversation, but how did pranging the right wheel cause the left wheel to get so far out of alignment as to cause excessive wheel wear. Did the entire axle tube get bent? About how much weight was in the trailer at the time?
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Old 09-14-2013, 01:52 PM   #19
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Frame to outside of tire is 20 inches.
That sounds like a lot. Of course about 8" of that is tire, but that still leaves 12" from frame to inner sidewall, and 16" from frame to hub face. Assuming that the outboard side of the mounting bracket is at the outboard edge of the frame, that's 7" more bracket-to-hubface overhang than Dexter allows on their 3500 pound beam axles (if I recall this dimension correctly as 9"); beyond that reduces the carryng capacity.

I wonder if the long overhang provided enough extra leverage to bend the tube in a hit that otherwise would not have damaged anything.
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Old 09-14-2013, 02:57 PM   #20
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Bill, thanks for measuring!

Brian, you could have something there.

My trailer was nearly empty at the time of the incident. Empty trailer is supposed to be under 1300 lbs per Alan. Cargo at the time was perhaps 350 to 400 lbs. Yes, it must have put a bend or twist in the tube. If I had removed a wheel and sighted down the axle tube, maybe I could have seen a twist. For sure I could see a rise to the axle's centerpoint and an indent on the underside at that point... but for all I know, that could have been put in by the Tie Down mfr.
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For sure I could see a rise to the axle's centerpoint and an indent on the underside at that point... but for all I know, that could have been put in by the Tie Down mfr.
Yes, that's normal for both independent and beam axles: the tube is bent up slightly in the middle to provide some positive static camber. Under load, the tube bends a bit and reduces the camber.
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Hmmmmm....
Then a regular Little Snoozy would be much heavier if and when it encountered said road hazard.

Did someone say "Axle Recall"
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I don't know if this will help or not.
These are all the passenger side:

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Looks like maybe 11 1/2 inches from frame.
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Looks like it might possibly be bolted on.
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Pretty close to fiberglass.
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Old 09-14-2013, 07:34 PM   #24
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I don't know if this will help or not.
These are all the passenger side:

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Old 09-14-2013, 08:24 PM   #25
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I see bolts thru the frame tube both fore and aft the axle and I see one of the welded tabs on the axle tube. It is bolted and why wouldn't it be. Remember Jerod's lecture about welding galvanized steel?

I don"t care much for hatchet job in the floor around what I take to be a dinette table leg socket. Particularly exposed to water and road salt. Hello aluminum oxide!

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It looks like the fender is as close to the body as possible, and the wheel is pretty close. The body tapers toward the bottom (as expected of any moulded body with a mid-level seam), it curves at the bottom corner, and the frame is even further inboard than required to reach a flat area... thus the big axle overhang. Perhaps the idea was to reduce the distance the floor needs to span or just to keep the frame from being too visible - the frame is probably still more widely spaced than a typical egg (which of course has wheel wells to accommodate the wheels without them stuck way out there).

Cargo trailers with outboard wheels typically don't have this issue because the side walls are vertical and the frame is right at the edge of the body... there is no challenge for the axle.
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Carl, yours is much closer than mine! My fender and wheel stick out way more than that. I'm pretty sure I could stick my hand sideways (with knuckles horizontal) between the body and the fender edge. The tire is farther out than that.
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That is a big difference Mike.
So looks like we definitely have to measure our own
when faced with these situations.

I'll have to do something about that cup underneath.
I hadn't paid any attention to it before. Maybe glue a
milk bottle over it...........LOL
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