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Old 07-03-2014, 10:54 PM   #57
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Thanks for the pic Eric this is exactly what I was referring too. The rear hatch cleared the jack and propane tank easily which was nice being able to access stuff in the rear of the van while hitched and even stand under the hatch when raining to hookup etc. My issue was with scraping the hitch/electrical connector on steep entrances into gas stations, campgrounds etc b/c the Sienna hitch was low to the ground. I'm wondering if the Oddy hitch is able to be installed higher off the ground than the Sienna hitch maybe???? Do you ever scrape yours?

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We have a 13' Scamp that we tow with a 2007 Odyssey. I am not sure what hitch clearance issue you are referring to. The tailgate does conveniently miss the jack and can open when the trailer is attached. The hitch is relatively low to the ground, but you can see that I had to actually go down a little to hook up to the 13' Scamp. Below is a picture of our hitch. I like how the dealership cut out a little bit of the bumper to get the hitch as high as possible. I have seen other installations that are much lower.

Norm, I hope you enjoy your Odyssey as much as we have. It has been a great vehicle for us.
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Old 07-03-2014, 11:22 PM   #58
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It looks like it could change weight distribution on the axles of the tow vehicle somewhat (shift even more of the weight to the rear axle of the TV which acts like a lever fulcrum unless one uses a weight-distributing hitch?), but I've seen longer-than-normal hitch bars that move the ball about 4" back, further away from the TV's bumper. But if you only need a couple inches more clearance to raise the tailgate past the hitch, or whatever else the tailgate might be hitting on the tongue, it might be worth checking into. Not sure what they are called. I think I remember seeing one in the accessory showroom of a mom-and-pop business that sold and serviced utility trailers.
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Old 07-04-2014, 07:27 AM   #59
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Eric, I measured the height of our existing ball and it seems our ball support will have to go up a little.

So you have no interference with your propane tank, I assume it misses that by plenty.
Norm, we have no interference with the propane tank or the jack in front. I don't know if the 13' and 16' are different in that regard, however.
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Old 07-04-2014, 07:43 AM   #60
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My issue was with scraping the hitch/electrical connector on steep entrances into gas stations, campgrounds etc b/c the Sienna hitch was low to the ground. I'm wondering if the Oddy hitch is able to be installed higher off the ground than the Sienna hitch maybe???? Do you ever scrape yours?

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Melissa, I do scrape occasionally on steep entrances. It happens maybe once per 2000 miles of travel so occasionally, but not often. It does not scrape on the receiver/electrical connection that is mounted to the odyssey. It does seem to scrape on the bottom of the hitch that goes into the receiver.

I have noticed different installations on these vans. Some are higher and some are lower.

In my setup, I do not blame the Odyssey at all, but rather the Scamp 13'. It rides quite low and to keep it somewhat level you can see my hitch goes down slightly from the receiver rather than up. I think Norm who has a 16' that rides higher than the 13' will have even less of a problem.

I have also had to be careful to not overload the tongue weight. I measure it every year. These vans are not designed to take a lot of weight and too much weight makes them ride even lower. Remember that loading up the van (especially the rear of the van) is the same thing as having too much tongue weight.

We have been coast to coast with this setup and love it. I hope you have enjoyed it as well.
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Old 07-04-2014, 08:42 AM   #61
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Eric, We weigh our tongue a few time a year and it's always in the 190-200 lb range. I don't expect that to change.

As to loading the Odyssey we try to keep anything heavy between the tow vehicle axles . The reality is that we don't carry a lot in the tow vehicle and it's always just the two of us. I think the Odyssey will be just fine.

We usually disconnect most nights when traveling. One of the nice attributes of the Odyssey is that it's relatively easy to access the rear of the van from the inside, particularly in the base model.
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Old 07-04-2014, 04:38 PM   #62
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You really won't have to watch the hitch weight closely any more, though. Let 'er climb to a whopping 250 lbs if you like, and nothing bad will happen. I bet you will come to enjoy that.
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Old 07-05-2014, 02:59 PM   #63
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Hey Norm, when are you getting your new Oddy? If you already answered this I apologize. I have family in town for 2 weeks so my internet time is quick and limited to skimming, LOL.

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Old 07-05-2014, 03:16 PM   #64
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Melissa,

We plan to head to Florida for a few days and will purchase in late July/early August.
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Old 07-05-2014, 04:16 PM   #65
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We plan to head to Florida for a few days and will purchase in late July/early August.
Norm,
This information is worth what you paid for it! Ha! By doing a little research on the web, it appears that the best time to buy a new vehicle is just between Thanksgiving and Christmas. But not on a Saturday. They say that the end of the month is best. Due to the fact that the car dealers are trying to meet their sales goals! Also, they say don't accept their first offer, be prepared to walk again once or twice. I wish you the best of luck in getting the best deal possible! The money you safe can buy lots of fuel!!!!! ;-)
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Distance to axle.

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It looks like it could change weight distribution on the axles of the tow vehicle somewhat (shift even more of the weight to the rear axle of the TV which acts like a lever fulcrum unless one uses a weight-distributing hitch?), but I've seen longer-than-normal hitch bars that move the ball about 4" back, further away from the TV's bumper. But if you only need a couple inches more clearance to raise the tailgate past the hitch, or whatever else the tailgate might be hitting on the tongue, it might be worth checking into. Not sure what they are called. I think I remember seeing one in the accessory showroom of a mom-and-pop business that sold and serviced utility trailers.
Dakr,

We never try to move the ball further from the rear axle. We actually have an additional hole in our hitch bar to move the ball closer to the axle.
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Old 07-06-2014, 07:51 PM   #67
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Norm,

After our discussion I noticed that on my '07 Odyssey and 13' Scamp, the tailgate barely misses the jack by less than an inch. I believe the 16' scamp sits a little higher and that would be an issue IF nothing else is different but obviously I have no idea where your front jack is, how high it is relative to mine, how your (likely newer) Odyssey's tailgate swings out, etc....

Just heads up that if it is important to you to open the tailgate while hooked up that you check it out with due care.

I hope you enjoy the Odyssey. We love it for our family and would do it again. If you need any pictures of my setup, let me know.
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Norm... Last week the local Honda dealer displayed a real nice 2007 Oddy. Black with leather etc. (150,000klm) They were asking 14,500.

It was like new. Even the underneath showed no rust. The salesman went through the details and I could see us buying this one. Anyway got out on the highway for a test run and the tranny was not working right. Bummer.

We then tried out a loaded 2010 Honda Crosstour. Test drive went well and I liked it until it went into ECO mode. Cylinder deactivation. It ran rough, like it was starting to run out of gas. Something very wrong. Anyway got a little discouraged with our local Honda dealer and the problematic cars they were trying to pedal. Still looking though and would still buy a Honda if the right one presented itself.
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I have had vehicle hatches hit the tops of jacks before. The solution I settled on was to remove that jack and install a side-mount, swing-away jack. They require less cranking to get the job done, too.
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We have a side mounted swing-away jack. Should be OK

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