Speed - Split from What's your gas mileage? - Fiberglass RV


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-17-2011, 06:54 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
honda03842's Avatar
 
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,300
Speed - Split from What's your gas mileage?

There seems to be two factors in towing mpg, engine size and speed.

The high mileage tow vehicles tend to have 4 cylinder engines and drive in the 55 to 60 mph range. As well as posting our mpg we should post our typical tow speeds as Frederick did (11 mpg at 70, 16 at 55)

Our Honda's 23 mpg is at a typical 57 mph driving in 5th gear.

Norm
__________________

__________________
honda03842 is offline  
Old 08-17-2011, 08:18 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Chris Z's Avatar
 
Trailer: 16 Scamp, 17 Casita, 21Bigfoot now
Posts: 412
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842 View Post
There seems to be two factors in towing mpg, engine size and speed.

The high mileage tow vehicles tend to have 4 cylinder engines and drive in the 55 to 60 mph range. As well as posting our mpg we should post our typical tow speeds as Frederick did (11 mpg at 70, 16 at 55)

Our Honda's 23 mpg is at a typical 57 mph driving in 5th gear.

Norm
I'd like to know where you guys drive under 60 mph and not get run over or stop constantly at traffic lights. Aren't you afraid of getting rear-ended? I hope you are not those people that cause wrecks and traffic jams.
__________________

__________________
Chris Z is offline  
Old 08-17-2011, 08:21 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Donna D.'s Avatar
 
Name: Donna D
Trailer: Escape 5.0 TA, 2014
Oregon
Posts: 24,434
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Z View Post
I'd like to know where you guys drive under 60 mph and not get run over or stop constantly at traffic lights. Aren't you afraid of getting rear-ended? I hope you are not those people that cause wrecks and traffic jams.
Chris, the highest speed limit in Oregon is 65 mph. Trucks travel the interstates at 55 mph. That doesn't mean folks don't go over the speed limit, there are certainly some idiot drivers out there.
__________________
Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
Donna D. is offline  
Old 08-17-2011, 10:11 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
floyd's Avatar
 
Name: Floyd
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
IllAnnoy
Posts: 6,051
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D. View Post
Chris, the highest speed limit in Oregon is 65 mph. Trucks travel the interstates at 55 mph. That doesn't mean folks don't go over the speed limit, there are certainly some idiot drivers out there.
When the national speed limit was 55MPH on the interstate highways, fewer than 10% of drivers drove less than 10 miles over the speed limit.
I feel safe at 60 on the interstate with my trailer only because the trailer acts as a big "slow-moving vehicle sign".
75MPH is the effective interstate speed limit, since at that speed, you will pass only once in every nine times you are passed .
You may get no argument from many, but by your criterion...90+% of drivers are idiots.
Of course no one here is one of them!

"Truck's travel the interstates at 55MPH"
__________________
floyd is offline  
Old 08-17-2011, 10:36 AM   #5
Moderator
 
Frederick L. Simson's Avatar
 
Name: Frederick
Trailer: Fiber Stream
California
Posts: 8,151
Registry
Send a message via AIM to Frederick L. Simson
Cool I am NOT afraid.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Z View Post
I'd like to know where you guys drive under 60 mph and not get run over or stop constantly at traffic lights. Aren't you afraid of getting rear-ended?
I have not towed above 55 mph since July of 2005 when I calculated that 11 mpg at 70 mph. I tow on all Interstate Highways at 55 mph everywhere I go; even on I-20 in Texas, where the speed limit is 80. Speeders don't want to rear-end anyone any more than I want to be rear-ended; I am NOT afraid of it. Most Interstate Highways have at least 2 lanes in each direction. I stay in the farthest regular right lane (not counting transition lanes). Everyone goes around me no problem, for 6 years and counting... that big yellow-and-black "Caution" sign on the back of the trailer is visible from far behind giving them plenty of time to adjust.
__________________
Frederick - The Scaleman
1978 Fiber Stream 16 named "Eggstasy" & 1971 Compact Jr. named "Boomerang"
Frederick L. Simson is offline  
Old 08-17-2011, 11:22 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
honda03842's Avatar
 
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,300
Chris Z,

Generally I drive like Frederick. We stay to the right on Interstates and generally drive at 57 mph and not more than 60 mph.

We avoid Interstates except where we have to drive them in the Northeast. There are many parallel roads, like RT 17 in the south that parallels I-95. True there are lights in some towns on the way south but it's a truly pleasant road to drive and the stress level is a lot less.

In the west there is typically a lot less traffic, though sometimes faster than the east. We sometimes drive the western interstates though in the west there are also many interesting parallel roads like RT 2 in the northern tier of the country.

On the West coast we rarely drive I-5, prefering coastal 101, one of the nicest roads in the country.

Unlike many we're in no rush doing just 150 miles a day. If we're on a two lane road, we follow the Oregon rule, pull over if there's 5 cars behind you. For Semis and working people we'll pull over even sooner. We appreciate Oregon's frequent pull over lanes.

One other advantage we have is we're off season travelers with most of our road time between October and May.

We tend to be careful, hardly ever pass anyone and unlike my youth, give way at every opportunity.

Safe Travels,

Norm
__________________
honda03842 is offline  
Old 08-17-2011, 05:56 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Trailer: 2000 Burro 17 ft / 2001 Toyota Tundra V8 2wd
Posts: 322
Registry
For my 2001 Toyota Tundra 2wd 4.7L V8, towing 2000 17ft Burro, between 62-65mph, I get 14MPG. Not towing I get 19MPG if all highway.

Speaking of towing MPG and speeds... I recently took a trip through California, Arizona, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico. Pretty much everywhere all the big rigs drove around 60-65MPH. Except in Arizona, I practically had every big rig pass me going 70+MPH. I guess there's no separate big rig speed limit in Arizona?
__________________
ThomasE is offline  
Old 08-17-2011, 06:49 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Donna D.'s Avatar
 
Name: Donna D
Trailer: Escape 5.0 TA, 2014
Oregon
Posts: 24,434
Quote:
Originally Posted by floyd View Post
When the national speed limit was 55MPH on the interstate highways, fewer than 10% of drivers drove less than 10 miles over the speed limit.
I feel safe at 60 on the interstate with my trailer only because the trailer acts as a big "slow-moving vehicle sign".
75MPH is the effective interstate speed limit, since at that speed, you will pass only once in every nine times you are passed .
You may get no argument from many, but by your criterion...90+% of drivers are idiots.
Of course no one here is one of them!

"Truck's travel the interstates at 55MPH"
Only in Oregon Floyd, where tourists and the like are unfamiliar with our slower speed here. That's fine, we'll gladly take their fine or bail money and add it to our General Fund when they're caught speeding. Remember, Oregonians are tree huggers and environmentalists, there has been many attempts to raise the speed limit on the interstates, and the voters always vote it down. Which is fine with me. I like towing at 55-57 mph... I get the best MPG going slower.
__________________
Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
Donna D. is offline  
Old 08-17-2011, 06:55 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Name: Ray
Trailer: 21' Escape - former owner of 17' "other brand."
Florida
Posts: 699
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Z View Post
I'd like to know where you guys drive under 60 mph and not get run over or stop constantly at traffic lights. Aren't you afraid of getting rear-ended? I hope you are not those people that cause wrecks and traffic jams.
Here in Florida, and most of the South as far as I can tell, the speed limit is just a "suggestion." If you did less than 60 mph in a 70 mph zone you'd have the people behind you piled up and pissed off. I sometimes think that I'm the only person who keeps the speed down to 65 in our local 55 mph city interstate zones - even doing that, I'm usually the slowest person on the road. On our last trip to South Carolina while towing the EggCamper, I did keep my cruising speed down to 65 mph (because of the tire rating), and it wasn't too bad. A lot of the big-rigs seemed to stay at 65 (but many didn't); as long as I kept in the right lane I didn't feel uncomfortable at that speed - any slower and I would have. In cities I just go with the flow, even if it's 5-10 mph above the usual 55 mph posted speed. On our trip to Michigan three years ago and our trip to Colorado two years ago, we were really surprised by how people seemed to obey the speed limits. You must have police that actually enforce the laws up there!

Oh, BTW: With my 310 h.p., 4.6L V8 in my 2011 Toyota Tundra, (8200 lbs. tow rating), I average 14.5 mpg towing my 17' EggCamper at a steady 65 mph, a speed I maintain even on hills. I get 20 mpg when cruising at 70 - 75 mph with no camper. I thank the six speed transmission for the good gas mileage. It's just about exactly what I got in my old 2003 S-10 with the 190 h.p. 4.3 L V6, (5600 lbs tow rating) - but it had a four speed transmission. With the S-10 I had to really slow down on hills or drop into third gear and race the engine - neither of which I liked to do. I'm not someone who's comfortable with a line of traffic piling up behind me.

Oh, and like Donna, I don't tow all that much, I only put 3000 total miles on the S-10 the last year we had it because we have an economical sedan we use for most of our routine travels. However, this year we're putting a lot more mileage on the Tundra because whenever we go somewhere my wife says "let's take the truck." She loves the big beast! It's extremely comfortable and she likes being up high. Oh well, I enjoy it too.
__________________
Ray N is offline  
Old 08-17-2011, 09:09 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
floyd's Avatar
 
Name: Floyd
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
IllAnnoy
Posts: 6,051
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D. View Post
Only in Oregon Floyd, where tourists and the like are unfamiliar with our slower speed here. That's fine, we'll gladly take their fine or bail money and add it to our General Fund when they're caught speeding. Remember, Oregonians are tree huggers and environmentalists, there has been many attempts to raise the speed limit on the interstates, and the voters always vote it down. Which is fine with me. I like towing at 55-57 mph... I get the best MPG going slower.
When I recently towed my Scamp through Oregon, the traffic passed us like we were sitting on jackstands, just like everywhere else, and that's in a state where they can't even pump their own gas!
I thought it was curious that you can pump your own diesel but not your own gas?? After spending 25 minutes waiting to fill-up and pay for gas, I'm guessing they needed to make-up for lost time?
New Jersey is the only other place in the U.S. of which I am aware with that silliness!
Regards;(me and my Scamp)
"Oregonians are tree huggers and environmentalists"
I guess that explains the Birkenstocks and the burnt lips.
But seriously the one's I met seemed sane and nice enough!
__________________
floyd is offline  
Old 08-17-2011, 10:17 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Name: Jesse
Trailer: 1984 Scamp 13'
Maryland
Posts: 818
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Z
I'd like to know where you guys drive under 60 mph and not get run over or stop constantly at traffic lights. Aren't you afraid of getting rear-ended? I hope you are not those people that cause wrecks and traffic jams.
A lot of people say the same thing, but it is easy and safe to travel at these lower speeds. The fact is that higher speeds cause more accidents than lower speeds. People do look ahead of their cars... At least a few feet. They don't tend to just rear end people who are driving at or near the speed limit.
__________________
-Jesse
SOLD! - 1984 Scamp 13 in Maryland.
mcbrew is offline  
Old 08-18-2011, 05:03 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
Name: Ray
Trailer: 21' Escape - former owner of 17' "other brand."
Florida
Posts: 699
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcbrew View Post
A lot of people say the same thing, but it is easy and safe to travel at these lower speeds. The fact is that higher speeds cause more accidents than lower speeds. People do look ahead of their cars... At least a few feet. They don't tend to just rear end people who are driving at or near the speed limit.
Of course it is true that "speed kills," and vehicles going significantly faster than the flow of traffic are hazardous, but does anyone here know of a definitive study on vehicles going significantly slower than the speed limit? It seems logical that any disruption to the flow of traffic would be hazardous - perhaps more to those trying to pass them than to themselves in the case of slow-moving vehicles?
__________________
Ray N is offline  
Old 08-18-2011, 09:34 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
Greg H's Avatar
 
Name: Greg
Trailer: 72 Boler American
Indiana
Posts: 1,557
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcbrew View Post
A lot of people say the same thing, but it is easy and safe to travel at these lower speeds. The fact is that higher speeds cause more accidents than lower speeds. People do look ahead of their cars... At least a few feet. They don't tend to just rear end people who are driving at or near the speed limit.
Ray, remember when interstate speed limit signs also posted a minimum speed limit? Whatever happened to that?
__________________
Greg H is offline  
Old 08-18-2011, 10:19 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
Name: Ray
Trailer: 21' Escape - former owner of 17' "other brand."
Florida
Posts: 699
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray N View Post
Of course it is true that "speed kills," and vehicles going significantly faster than the flow of traffic are hazardous, but does anyone here know of a definitive study on vehicles going significantly slower than the speed limit? It seems logical that any disruption to the flow of traffic would be hazardous - perhaps more to those trying to pass them than to themselves in the case of slow-moving vehicles?
I hope I didn't come off too strongly on this issue - I'm a little sensitive about it since my best friend (now deceased), was involved in a collision that put him, his wife, and his brother in the hospital; his brother's wife was killed in the collision. He was hit head-on by a vehicle from the oncoming side of the road. The car that hit him was trying to pass another vehicle. Who was at fault? Obviously the person who attempted the pass was at fault, but the fact remains that the collision wouldn't have happened in the first place if everyone was going with the flow of traffic. Maybe the slower vehicle was going with the flow and the passer was entirely at fault? I'll never know. But many times (okay, maybe only a time or two), I've been on a crowded road, going with the flow in a right lane, when suddenly the vehicle in front of me pulls out to the left and I have to brake hard in order to avoid rear-ending someone poking along - my view ahead having been obstructed by the large SUV or truck I was following. I probably would be the one legally responsible for any resulting collision in this case, but feel that the slow-moving vehicle would have been the real reason for any collision.

I'm not trying to hijack this thread and hope we can move on to "gas mileage" now that I've tried to explain my personal peeve on vehicles not going "with the flow."

Remember, everyone who goes faster than you is a crazy idiot, and everyone who goes slower than you is a doddering old fool - GO WITH THE FLOW!
__________________

__________________
Ray N is offline  
Closed Thread


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Gas mileage better than expected DannyH General Chat 3 05-22-2011 09:59 PM
Just gas or gas/electric water heater? Feedback wanted. Bryan L. Care and Feeding of Molded Fiberglass Trailers 15 09-15-2010 10:11 AM
Gas Mileage Rob M General Chat 20 11-19-2007 08:19 AM
How To Get Better Gas Mileage Patrick M. Care and Feeding of Molded Fiberglass Trailers 29 10-01-2007 04:36 PM
Gas mileage vs. tire pressure General Chat 0 12-31-1969 07:00 PM

» Upcoming Events
No events scheduled in
the next 465 days.
» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.