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Old 03-06-2015, 01:39 PM   #15
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For any MPG comparisons to be meaningful, you will also have to have terrain/wind categories, i.e. "flat-calm", "mixed-hilly-light wind", "steep-mountainous-strong headwinds"; as well as driver characteristics, i.e. "slow-steady", "average", "fast-aggressive".
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Old 03-06-2015, 01:56 PM   #16
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I question it's overall value because it is based on individual owners opinions and successes and is nearly impossible to search or get more than a general match for the vehicle(s) being discussed. There are way to many generalities being made that can easily mislead both newbies as well as experienced RVer's


Also completely ignored are the towing specifications for the vehicles being mentioned. As these posts seem to be some sort of approval for certain combinations, the reader also needs to know if that combination falls within the manufacturers towing specifications, of which some already posted do not....


All to often a recommendation is made based on "Joe did this for 5 years without problems" with disregard for other considerations that must be included to give the viewer an accurate picture.


To be of real use, what is needed is a spreadsheet with more complete vehicle descriptions, vehicle towing limits, actual trailer weights and other special considerations that were made as to that towing combination.


Realizing that someone would have to be willing to monitor and update such a spreadsheet and I don't think that it will ever happen but, in this case, no information may be better than incomplete, incorrect, misleading or just plain bad information.
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Old 03-06-2015, 02:07 PM   #17
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Another issue is the "boast factor".
I'm not inclined to believe the numbers for MPG.
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Old 03-06-2015, 02:12 PM   #18
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The whole point of gathering a quantity of data is to calculate an average that represents a cross-section of conditions. To account separately for every possible variable is probably unrealistic, and could hardly be done scientifically in the context of self-reported data on an Internet forum. The best we can hope for is a rough average for a particular tug-tow combination. A sensible person would then factor in his/her own driving style and towing conditions.
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I question it's overall value because it is based on individual owners opinions and successes and is nearly impossible to search or get more than a general match for the vehicle(s) being discussed. There are way to many generalities being made that can easily mislead both newbies as well as experienced RVer's


Also completely ignored are the towing specifications for the vehicles being mentioned. As these posts seem to be some sort of approval for certain combinations, the reader also needs to know if that combination falls within the manufacturers towing specifications, of which some already posted do not....


All to often a recommendation is made based on "Joe did this for 5 years without problems" with disregard for other considerations that must be included to give the viewer an accurate picture.


To be of real use, what is needed is a spreadsheet with more complete vehicle descriptions, vehicle towing limits, actual trailer weights and other special considerations that were made as to that towing combination.


Realizing that someone would have to be willing to monitor and update such a spreadsheet and I don't think that it will ever happen but, in this case, no information may be better than incomplete, incorrect, misleading or just plain bad information.
In the Registry, if compartments are correctly performed, that would give a good starting point for a newcomer who wonders what he can trainer with his vehicle.
I believe that it is a question very frequently asked.

You saw what I wrote in the paragraph #43.
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Will it be accurate and objective? No
Will it be useful or helpful? Possibly
Will it mislead a novice? Probably
Will it be entertaining? ...

One thing for sure, though. We have the cart before the horse here. Purpose, then methodology, then data, then analysis.
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Will it be accurate and objective? No
Will it be useful or helpful? Possibly
Will it mislead a novice? Probably
Will it be entertaining? ...

One thing for sure, though. We have the cart before the horse here. Purpose, then methodology, then data, then analysis.
The original purpose of this thread was to give people a view of people's tow vehicle/trailer combinations. Now their is a flood of people talking about the precision and usefulness of the data. I find this silly.

The purpose was a simple view. This is not a contest, there are no certifications required.

The day we think general information is not valuable is a bad day. Who believes that people don't realize that weather, driving style, terrain have an impact on miles per gallon? These are just typical numbers.

Sometimes this site drives me crazy. My goal was to make it easy for people to see the good information in this thread.

If the original Poster, Mike M. wants me to publish. He can say, so other than that I'll keep it in my computer.

My view and I suspect Mike's was to provide an uncluttered collection of this data. Many of jumped on to pollute Mike's hope. When this started happening I thought collecting just the data might save it. Unfortunately the normal tide is building.

I'll leave it to the original poster
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Mike Magee,

Attached you will find a file of all the data to this post. I am willing to keep it up to date if you like. If not I will delete this post.
You know you have 32,000 members on this site...
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Gilles,

I know the number of members. If they all sent their data in it would be a valuable resource for me and the site not to mention potential advertisers.
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I know the number of members. If they all sent their data in it would be a valuable resource for me and the site not to mention potential advertisers.
Where will we find this list.
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You know you have 32,000 members on this site...
Excuse me, it's approx 960 members in the Registry.
I did a bad search.
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Norm, thanks, it does help. I did not list MPG when towing b/c i did not believe the OD, it read avg 23 mpg. Carl
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I know the number of members. If they all sent their data in it would be a valuable resource for me and the site not to mention potential advertisers.
Excuse me, it's approx 960 members in the Registry.
I did a bad search.
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Excuse me, it's approx 960 members in the Registry.
I did a bad search.
Gilles,

This is from the bottom of the front page of this web site, click on forums and go to the bottom of the page, lots of interesting info.

Like most data I don't know it's source or criteria.

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