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Old 03-03-2014, 09:52 AM   #15
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Funny enough I was very reluctant to go with an automatic having always driven manuals but found as some suggest it is rather nice to have the automatic when driving in city rush hour traffic. At low speeds having a mind of its own really a none issue with mine - it doesnt do the hunting for a gear as it does when traveling at higher speeds on hills etc - find kicking it over into sport mode when it starts to hunt on hills solves that issue as well.
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:58 AM   #16
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In a previous thread I posted this about my experience with my Subaru 2012 Forester

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Ours is the manual. The vehicle has adequate power to pull a 13' egg but watch your tongue weight. There is a 200 lb limit. The automatic should do better than the manual. We gave up towing with ours because of the "hill holder" clutch. It and the gearing make hill starts with the extra weight difficult without burning the clutch.
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I tow with a 2010 manual forester and I've had no real issues with it or the hill holder system. I primarily tow in the mountains and I'd rather use a manual transmission than worry about an automatic transmission over heating. That might be personal preference though as I don't own any automatic vehicles.

However, I do find it somewhat gutless, but for my slow lazy towing it's worked out ok. Just wish it could tow uphill a bit better.

I've never owned an automatic until I bought my first Frontier in 2009. In 40 years I never replaced a clutch or experienced clutch burn until I bought the Subaru. Living in the mountains, starting on steep hills is much more likely. I came to the conclusion that the clutch life would be drastically reduced if I continued to tow with the car. Since we have the truck this was not a big decision. I may be wrong but I believe the Outback employs the same "hill holder" system programed into the ABS system. Raz
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Correct me If I am wrong Raz but it is my understanding that the Forester didn't/doesnt give the driver the ability to shut off or on the hill assist option as the Outback does with a simple push of a button on the dash.
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Correct me If I am wrong Raz but it is my understanding that the Forester didn't/doesnt give the driver the ability to shut off or on the hill assist option as the Outback does with a simple push of a button on the dash.
You can disable the vehicle stability control but not the hill holder. Earlier (Foresters 2009?) used a cable connected to the rear brakes that could be disconnected. The newer ones are programmed and I was told they can't be shut off. Also I was told the Outback was the same. Was I misinformed?
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On newer models of the Outback with the newer hill holding system as far as I am aware there is a button on the dash that allows you to engage or disengage the hill holder option which I don't believe is on the Forester (the button that is) or at least as I recall it wasn't a couple of years ago when I looked at the Forester. The button on the Outback to turn off or on the hill holder option is located beside the electronic emergency brake button.

It looked like this on the 2010 Outback:
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Hill assist gives me no trouble while towing. I haven't had to start on any steep hills, though (not sure why I would unless I was driving in Seattle!)

However, I'm not fond of manual in stop and go traffic. Luckily I'm rarely doing that.

When I bought the 2000 Forester, the dealer in Fresno was not interested at all in finding a manual for me. I went to Porterville (to a shop that no longer sells Subarus) and that dealer was very willing both to find one and to deal.

When I bought the 2012, all the dealers were willing to find me one (I think they all found the same one.) (I was also specific about color and roof rack.) But for sure most of the models available were automatics.
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