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Old 02-29-2016, 09:23 PM   #15
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Dave,
I believe someone over on the Casita site is doing a shock kit. I don't know much about it though. I will add shocks to our Scamp in the future, but will make my own mounts.
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Old 03-01-2016, 12:14 AM   #16
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I used the wheel adapters made for the Casita kit and welded a bolt for the upper mount when I installed shocks. Out of all the mods I've done, by far my favorite. Changed the tow experience significantly. Info on my blog at http://justfinding.blogspot.com/2014/09/shocking.html

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Old 03-01-2016, 10:32 AM   #17
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John,
Thanks for the link. That mod should calm things down. Most of these trailers are so similar that the kit could be considered universal if the brake backing plates are drilled the same. I don't know how many variations there are for the different manufacturers. Our Scamp came with an Alko axle which I swapped out for a Flex-ride when we went to larger wheels and lifted it. We switched brakes along with the axle, so I don't know if the mounting bolt pattern changed. We could collect the needed information by recording the bolt pattern dimensions for the common axles. Maybe they are all the same for each weight axle, ie 2000lb, 3500, etc. ?
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Old 03-01-2016, 11:33 AM   #18
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I would be interested in shocks for the Scamp with the Flexiride axles for my setup.
The mounting is different on the back of the arm.
I have thought of adapting the ALKO Euro shocks and either welding a bracket on the arm or making a bracket that fits where the big bolt that clamps the arm to the splined shaft.


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Old 03-02-2016, 09:32 PM   #19
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JD,
I have not really done any recon on how to go about it yet. You could attach to the trailing arm, but the backing plate bolts would provide removability if say you wanted to alter the shock leverage ratio. The farther the shock is from the torsion bar the more leverage it has, and the more stroke it will need. Available space will dictate what you can get away with.
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Old 03-04-2016, 08:06 AM   #20
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Sorry I didn't get back to you , but my thoughts on the AL-KO shocks are to adapt them to the flexiride arms.
You could buy a second set to modify by welding an arm to the top since the Octagon AL-KO shocks are made to be mounted more horizontally.
The arms are only $35.00 each so the cost to try one is not too high.




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Old 03-04-2016, 08:04 PM   #21
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JD,
I see what they're doing. Looks like they are running the shocks in extension during suspension compression. Pulling rather than pushing. They could be valved backwards so they work that way. If you weld the shock mount arms to the top of the trailing arm the shocks would be conventional compression type valved. You would be able to use most any shock then.
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Old 03-04-2016, 08:34 PM   #22
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JD,
I see what they're doing. Looks like they are running the shocks in extension during suspension compression. Pulling rather than pushing. They could be valved backwards so they work that way. If you weld the shock mount arms to the top of the trailing arm the shocks would be conventional compression type valved. You would be able to use most any shock then.
You have got the idea just fine.
My own thoughts were to get the AL-KO Octagon shocks from Europe so that I could choose the right rating according to color code for the trailer weight.
I might choose a little higher weight range since the arm is shorter on the Flexiride than the AL-KO axle.
I would bet that the tuning would be better than we would get here since it is very hard to get specifications for US trailer shocks.
The Euro AL-KO produces axles, shocks, stabilization bits and complete trailer frames the "caravan" manufacturers use.

The shocks are available in three ranges


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Old 03-05-2016, 06:55 AM   #23
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Old Monroe shock kits

Monroe used to offer a shock kit, but no longer does. Here is some info from their old kits if that helps. I haven't attempted this yet and haven't checked to see if it fits my Al-Ko axle.
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Old 03-05-2016, 09:06 AM   #24
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John,
The Monroe kits success would be based on how well the trailing arm bracket fit the arm. It would rely on a flat parallel surface to mate to. Different manufacturer's axle offerings would pose problems. They had to stock a lot of parts to cover all the needs. Their basic layout looks like it would be a guide to how you could do you own installation with some welding and light fabrication. I just used that layout on my '67 Chevy C10 tug for the rear shocks.
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