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Old 12-08-2012, 07:50 PM   #101
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Well...I'm still going the Subaru route! Decided it would be a better choice. Not sure when I will pick up a camper, but it seems like the best all around option. Thank you everyone
I think you made a wise decision- most practical daily driver comes first, in my opinion.

And after all this hashing over, I'll bet you've got a MUCH better idea as to what to look for in a trailer!

Good luck, and keep us posted...

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Old 12-08-2012, 09:36 PM   #102
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Cool, keep us updated. I think you'll find it solid to tow with, I'm curious how the power is.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:56 PM   #103
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Thought you might like my take on using a Subaru Outback (2006 2.5i) to pull a 13’ ft fgrv (1978 Trillium). We bought the Subaru new in 2006. We bought the Trillium in Sept. 2008 on a whim. Didn’t know much at all about fgrv’s - had seen a couple over the years while tent camping. We didn’t even think about whether the Subaru could pull it safely or not. I didn’t read up on it (owner’s manual, internet until after I had towed it 50 miles home - live on the edge!)

We put electric brakes and new tires on the Trillium and by the middle of Oct. we were in Albuquerque NM! Left it there with relatives, drove back to Michigan. Went back out in Feb., hooked it up and “prowled” our way home over the next 5 weeks via TX, LA and points north.

Since then we’ve pulled the trailer at least 20,000 miles - the latest from Michigan to Cape Breton, Nova Scotia through Canada, return via the States from Maine. The Subaru loves it! No problems. And, since we replaced the axle last spring, it pulls even better, with a slight improvement in gas mileage (19.5 mpg).

I drive at 59 mph, but the Subaru will accelerate nicely up to 70 when needed to jockey around on Interstates in tough traffic situations. We’ve been over 8,000 ft altitude several times. On steeper mountain grades, speeds slow to under 40. I use the “Sport Shift” feature mostly, but under ideal conditions I can leave it in Drive with cruise engaged.

Hope this testimonial is beneficial to you.
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:11 PM   #104
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Hope this testimonial is beneficial to you.


Nothing like the ('nother!) voice of experience!

Glad you posted, Marv- too many times real experience gets drowned out by the "gotta-have-a-pickup" crowd...

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Old 12-26-2012, 03:28 PM   #105
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With 3.5 engines in full size pick ups towing 10,000lbs the 2.5 in your Sub towing 2,000 lbs seems very reasonable. Glad it's working out.
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:03 PM   #106
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With 3.5 engines in full size pick ups towing 10,000lbs the 2.5 in your Sub towing 2,000 lbs seems very reasonable.
Comparison of the two engine sizes is irrelevant - that one 3.5 L Ford engine towing 3500 pounds is a turbocharged and direct-injected engine installed in a truck; it is equipped with a suitable cooling system for high loads, and a transmission suitable for the job. It has no relationship to the normally aspirated engine and car transmission in the Subaru, any more than the truck chassis is relevant to the compact station wagon chassis.

The Subaru Outback 2.5i might be entirely suitable for towing 2000 pounds, but not because a Ford F-150 EcoBoost 3.5 can tow 10,000 pounds.
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:53 PM   #107
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With 3.5 engines in full size pick ups towing 10,000lbs the 2.5 in your Sub towing 2,000 lbs seems very reasonable. Glad it's working out.
Never mind, "W"...( "Dubya" ?)

Though admittedly a bit obscure, I for one got the ironical tone of your post...

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Old 12-26-2012, 06:30 PM   #108
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I'm surprised that it seems no one here has a Subaru Tribeca. V6 and 3500 lb tow rating. Seems like a great choice for Subie lovers.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:22 AM   #109
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Point of fact - H6 not V6. Same engine as in top of the line Outback, at least it was when they first started building them.

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Old 12-27-2012, 07:55 AM   #110
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Comparison of the two engine sizes is irrelevant - that one 3.5 L Ford engine towing 3500 pounds is a turbocharged and direct-injected engine installed in a truck;


Irrelevant????? Give us all a break. Both are gas engines that produce HP/TQ and are in vehicles that come with a tow rating.

Next you will be telling us it is irrelevant to compare......

Fords and Chevy's
Manual and auto trannys
Imports and domestics
Etc. etc, etc.

Re the restrictions......I get bored just thinking about it! LOL
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:24 PM   #111
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You forgot "apples and oranges"...

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Old 12-27-2012, 02:21 PM   #112
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Yes, irrelevant... or
  • a 3.5 L F-150 towing 10,000 lb indicates that a 7.0 L Z06 Corvette can tow 20,000 lb, and
  • my 2.0 L Focus with a tow rating of only 1000 lb indicates that a 14 L big rig should only tow 7000 lb (rather than the usual 60,000 lb).

Safe and reliable towing capacity has little to do with the engine's displacement, power, or torque output, and even less to do with the type of fuel used.

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You forgot "apples and oranges"...
It looks like Francesca got the point
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:59 PM   #113
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Safe and reliable towing capacity has little to do with the engine's displacement, power, or torque output,
I believe we all agree with you on that one.
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