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Old 10-13-2010, 01:58 PM   #57
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I think people fear it will get away and run loose. We had that supposed problem fixed when they "ground off" the accelorator then told us we needed a front end differential. Waiting for that recall.
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Old 10-13-2010, 03:01 PM   #58
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Taxes should be levied for infrastructure, not to meet political agendas....
Tell me what would make a more sensible TV for my Scamp than 4CYL manual trans Escape? What do you tow with? Do they need to punish you to get you to act sensibly?
Can you name a single politician who has shown half the restraint of those who earn their keep? Should we limit the thousands of gallons of diesel fuel wasted daily to fly all those politicians all over the place, out campaigning for conservation?
Don't forget that most fuel tax is state tax, and that they got a ten cent increase while pushing for forty cents.

As you know, a joke isn't much good if you must explain it, go back and reread the post to which you responded.
BTW... Do you suppose they should make you increase the tire pressure on your Scamp to increase your fuel economy?
Afterall Big Brother is smarter than you... right?
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Old 10-13-2010, 06:16 PM   #59
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This thread is getting political and is also way off topic.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:04 PM   #60
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This thread is getting political and is also way off topic.
Agreed, let's keep this discussion topical, or it will need to be closed:

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Is there a speed that gives the best MPG or does it depend on the TV.
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Old 10-13-2010, 08:07 PM   #61
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Floyd, I have a lot of respect for your choice of tow vehicle. I think you misinterpreted something I said as a personal attack against you. This was not my intent.

Was it the "car vs. truck" comment? I was making a reference to large trucks, such as F250s and the like. Many people seem to think that those sorts of trucks are the tool for the job when it comes to towing a camper that was designed to be towed by a VW bug. I find that somewhat humorous. If someone likes towing with a truck, that is fine. Some suggest that it is necessary, and that is not the case.

If it is something else that I said that got under your skin please let me know. I don't want to hurt any feelings around here.
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Floyd, I have a lot of respect for your choice of tow vehicle. I think you misinterpreted something I said as a personal attack against you. This was not my intent.

Was it the "car vs. truck" comment? I was making a reference to large trucks, such as F250s and the like. Many people seem to think that those sorts of trucks are the tool for the job when it comes to towing a camper that was designed to be towed by a VW bug. I find that somewhat humorous. If someone likes towing with a truck, that is fine. Some suggest that it is necessary, and that is not the case.

If it is something else that I said that got under your skin please let me know. I don't want to hurt any feelings around here.
First let me say that I saw no personal attack and I took no offense.
Face to face, you would see that in an instant.

I get what I think is the best mileage/tow vehicle ratio using the Escape at moderate speeds usually around 58-60MPH.
I do this to save on travel expenses, not for political reasons.
That is also why I have a Scamp 13. I just wanted to say that I don't need a $3 per gallon tax to be responsible, since I am already orders of magnitude more responsible than those who would levy it.
I, like you, would rather pay for a motel than drive a TV which was no fun when unhitched, or cost more for gas than the price of a motel.
It would be sad if we had to agree at every turn to remain friends.
Those who can't bear a challege to their position,never really had one.
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It seems like ages ago I started this thread, but it wasn't. I have found in two short weeks that 60 vs 65 saves me gas in my situation. (actual mileage may vary) (always wanted to say that!) I think I will stick with that for now. Thanks for all the great information on this one, I learned a lot, like always.
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Old 10-13-2010, 09:03 PM   #64
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you would see that in an instant.
Yes... So much is lost/missing over the internets.
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Those who can't bear a challege to their position,never really had one.
Well put. I don't feel the need to agree... I just don't want to be misunderstood. I certainly don't want to offend.

On a side note, I don't think we need a $3 per gallon tax on fuel. However, if you take for granted that our various levels of government need a certain amount of tax dollars to maintain roads, then it would seem that they will need to raise gas taxes due to the her fuel economy standards that are surely to come. Many will disagree, but it is something to ponder.
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On the why a truck for tug, 5th wheel. Although some many years ago they made a 5r that attached to the roof of a VW Beatle and someone posted a picture of it on this site.

I get my best MPG at 60MPH but loose 2MPG at 75 (2007 Silverado Crew Cab with the multi fuel E85 V 8) that I have never been able to find E85 for in the first place.

E85 - Our Government going green for us.
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:39 AM   #66
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E85, car companies cheating the CAFE standards.

The thing that cracked me up was the long line of people at the only E85 pump in town when gas was $4/gal and E85 was about $3.75. I bet most of them never stopped to notice that they got 30% lower fuel economy with that E85 and actually spent more per mile.

Back to your comment on 5th wheel campers... yes, you need a truck for that, obviously. I was referring to 13' eggs. Again, I don't have a problem with people towing them with trucks... I just have a problem with people saying you NEED a truck to tow one.
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Old 10-14-2010, 08:47 AM   #67
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As has been said many things effect best mpg and tow speed. However there's another or two to consideration when towing. ST tires are generally rated for 65 mph max. Also many states have a maximum towing speed of 55 mph. In our case here in Oregon it's not well published, but is in the laws. California posts maximum towing speed. To avoid speeding tickets check the state laws you'll be towing in or do as I do always tow between 55 mph and 60 mph. I like to stay closer to 55.

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Trailer tires are rated for 65mph max. I would not feel comfortable exceeding the tire rating or even running at or near the maximum rating. As the speeds go higher so does the heat generated. That is the main reason that I replaced my tires with light truck tires, the speed rating is 115mph on them. I will only drive at a fraction of that speed and also only a fraction of the maximum load rating. If you are using tires at close to their maximum speed and/or load ratings, I would expect many more tire failures than if used at 50 to 60% of the maximum rating. Maybe that is why we hear of so many trailer tire failures.

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Old 10-14-2010, 09:02 AM   #68
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Air resistance factor goes up as the SQUARE of the speed.

40 mph = 1600

for a 125% increase in speed you pay a with a 156% increase in drag

50 mph = 2500

for a 120% increase in speed, you pay with a 144% increase in drag.

60 mph = 3600

and compared to 40 mph for a 150% increase in speed you get a 225% increase in drag.

Which is why auto mfgrs try to keep their air resistance figures low.
Roger, you are correct, above about 30mph air resistance is the major factor in gas mileage. A fiberglass egg shape may not be perfect but it is much more aerodynamic than typically shaped trailers built with flat walls. However all the accessories that are frequently added to the outside of a egg, like awnings, roof AC, very large roof vent covers, etc can really increase the air resistance. Even things like refrigerator vents and door handles that stick out make a difference. Look at the auto industry, to improve aerodynamics they have gone to flush mounted door handles and smooth rounded shapes. I remember reading years ago that an empty roof rack on top of a car can reduce highway mileage by 2-5%.
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E85, car companies cheating the CAFE standards.

The thing that cracked me up was the long line of people at the only E85 pump in town when gas was $4/gal and E85 was about $3.75. I bet most of them never stopped to notice that they got 30% lower fuel economy with that E85 and actually spent more per mile.

Back to your comment on 5th wheel campers... yes, you need a truck for that, obviously. I was referring to 13' eggs. Again, I don't have a problem with people towing them with trucks... I just have a problem with people saying you NEED a truck to tow one.
Jesse,
I tow a 17 ft Fiber Stream with a Ford F250 long bed. It is also equipped to tow a gooseneck or haul a camper should I so choose. I have solar panels on the camper shell rather than the trailer so I can reach to tilt and clean them. I never have to use shore power or a generator. I also have a 55 gallon water tank and pump in the pickup and spare wastewater capacity. I carry tools and hardware to cover almost any breakdown situation. I can dry camp for two weeks with no external energy or material inputs. Everything I own can go with me. I am about as self contained as one can get because, for me, I want there to be more to the camping experience than trotting between power/water sources.

This is why I use a truck. I average 13.5 mpg towing and never exceed 55 as that's the law here, not to mention being what's responsible. When I am home I drive a Ford Fiesta and have a blast getting +/- 40 gpm.

Just wanted to point out that those of us using full sized pickups for TVs can have good reasons for doing so, not just preference.

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