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Old 12-15-2012, 08:06 AM   #29
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We used our 1994 Dodge Ram.........with Cummins Diesel to tow our 13' Scamp ....
Yea, I'd say that you have it covered, probably no need for a load equalizing hitch.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:10 AM   #30
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Sounds like you got an exceptional buy. Current NADA book for a 1994 Dodge Ram/diesel is slightly over $6000, well over the set budget of $3500.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:28 PM   #31
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Francesca, if you have never tried one of these trucks, you should do so sometime. It might well change your mind about how well they work.

Kind of going off topic, but for me pickup trucks are a necessity of daily life anyway. When I'm not gone camping, my daily life revolves around a stable with 36 horses, so trucks rule the transportation roster.


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I'm sure you don't mean to sound patronizing with that first bit...for the record: I'm very familiar with pickups, have owned several and driven many others of all shapes and sizes. We presently own a Ford 3/4 ton that's only used to tow the trailer if my husband wants to take a motorcycle on a solo trip.

But for most of the thousands of miles the trailer has traveled with us/me, my 4 cyl. '97 Sportage daily driver has done the work admirably, and for considerably less expense than any pickup, large or small, would have run up over these seven years.

A pickup "truck" isn't a necessity for towing a thousand (or even a two thousand) pound trailer, but these inquiries inevitably bring out a lot of people that think otherwise.

For someone like you that needs a pickup for day-to-day use, it's a natural fit. For others, buying a vehicle for the primary purpose of towing a little trailer a few times a year is an impractical and expensive proposition.

There are many other vehicles that will serve, and at the same time meet the requirements of a daily driver more cheaply, efficiently, and comfortably.

One caveat goes with my recommendation, though: brakes on the trailer are a necessity as far as I'm concerned. For me, that's true regardless of the tug's type/size, but if a relatively "small" vehicle is to do the towing, trailer brakes are even more critical. Moving the trailer is much less a chore for any tug than stopping it.

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Old 12-15-2012, 03:09 PM   #32
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We tow our Egg Camper with our Chevy pickup but that's not why we have a truck. We also tow our 31 ft Kodiak with it. I doubt that our Honda CRV would be satisfactory with our Kodiak. Having had pickups for probably 30 years, I think I'd not want to be without one. Basically, get whatever "floats your boat." If somebody else thinks it's nuts, so what? You have to suit yourself, not somebody else. And I'm not being disrespectful in any way .
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I normally don't mix in when it comes to towing and vehicle threads, but I'm with Bob on this one. Not everyone wants to drive a car. I've owned two different trucks and not with towing in mind, it's because that's what I wanted to drive. The last daily driving car I owned was a Porsche... and I traded that in for a truck!
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I normally don't mix in when it comes to towing and vehicle threads, but I'm with Bob on this one. Not everyone wants to drive a car. I've owned two different trucks and not with towing in mind, it's because that's what I wanted to drive. The last daily driving car I owned was a Porsche... and I traded that in for a truck!
The reverse is true, too- not everyone wants to drive a pickup, either.

The O.P. inquired about a "vehicle" without indicating a preference either way, and in my opinion it's important not to create an impression that a pickup is the only-or even the best- answer to that inquiry.

Of course, we haven't heard a further (and perhaps clarifying) word from the O.P. since the opening post, so maybe it's a moot point anyway!

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Old 12-15-2012, 06:16 PM   #35
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But the original poster did specify a vehicle that is easy to work on by someone who is familiar with older technology and layouts.
If you had to replace a clutch in your vehicle, your self, in your own garage, would you rather work on a Kia Sportage ( front wheel drive ) or on a Ranger or old style Toyota truck.
Suppose the half-shafts need to be replaced ? Again, would you rather work on "any" front wheel drive or on a Ranger or Toyota ( they, if they are 2WD don't have half shafts, but they do have a driveshaft with u-joints ).
I can tell you which design is user more user friendly for the "at-home" wrench.

Let's face it, any car that is in the $3500 category, stands a fairly good chance of needing some mechanical work done to it. These are important considerations for folks who have a strict budget for operating their vehicles.
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My Kia Sportage is four wheel drive, and two wheel drive units of that (first) generation are rear-wheel drive.

The point is really irrelevant, since no vehicle built after the late eighties/early nineties is easier to work on than any other.

Since the O.P. has experience with older vehicles, he/she would probably do well to confine the search to mid-eighties and earlier models. Since the unibody-frame standard was only getting started then, nearly ALL vehicles, especially domestics, were still built on ladder-frames.

For example, I have a 1965 Ford Falcon station wagon in my carport that can out-tow most small newer so-called "trucks" (pickups). And when you pop the hood, you can just about stand in the engine compartment right alongside the engine!

Talk about simplicity...

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The point is really irrelevant, since no vehicle built after the late eighties/early nineties is easier to work on than any other..............
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Not true.
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Originally Posted by Francesca Knowles
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The point is really irrelevant, since no vehicle built after the late eighties/early nineties is easier to work on than any other..............
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Well, there you go....you supported my original premise....my suggestion for a 92 Toyota truck.
Those trucks are stone simple to work on. You can literally change all four shocks in about 20 minutes, with just a couple of wrenches. Try that with you macpherson strut vehicle. I could go on and on about the simple to work on nature of that type of vehicle.
Now, if we could just get the OP to weigh back in on all this !
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:00 PM   #40
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My Kia Sportage is four wheel drive, and two wheel drive units of that (first) generation are rear-wheel drive.



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....let's be real though. There are NONE of those first gen cars left. Thankfully.
Probably one of the worst example of modern four wheeled transportation built. ranks right down there with Yugo.

Kia threw that baby out with the bath water, and started all over with the second gen, and pretty much got it right that time.

I still challenge you fix any driveline issues with your Kia with ordinary tools that most people have.
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Since the O.P. has experience with older vehicles, he/she would probably do well to confine the search to mid-eighties and earlier models. Since the unibody-frame standard was only getting started then, nearly ALL vehicles, especially domestics, were still built on ladder-frames.

For example, I have a 1965 Ford Falcon station wagon...
(I added the bold emphasis in the above quote)

A large fraction of North American vehicles of the mid-eighties were unibody; the were far from all built on separate frames, let alone ladder frames. That probably doesn't matter, since few of them have survived - thirty-year-old cars are generally restored classics or scrap, neither of which qualifies as a $3500 functional towing vehicle.

That Falcon was unibody, according to the corresponding Wikipedia page and the Falcon Club. I think only intermediate and larger cars, plus trucks, were generally body-on-frame by the 1970s.

While I think it's important to get the facts straight, I don't think it's very important whether a vehicle is unibody or body-on-frame, for the purposes of towing... but that's just opinion (albeit supported by fact).
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A large fraction of North American vehicles of the mid-eighties were unibody. That probably doesn't matter, since few of them have survived - thirty-year-old cars are generally restored classics or scrap, neither of which qualifies as a $3500 functional towing vehicle.

That Falcon was unibody, according to the corresponding Wikipedia page and the Falcon Club. I think only intermediate and larger cars, plus trucks, were generally body-on-frame by the 1970s.

While I think it's important to get the facts straight, I don't think it's very important whether a vehicle is unibody or body-on-frame, for the purposes of towing... but that's just opinion (albeit supported by fact).
You are correct Brian, those Falcons were the beginning of the fox platform, which had a long run as the Mustang chassis.
Not that it would matter in the case of the Falcon....those things with a 6 banger in them barely made enough power to get out of their own way....you would not be towing much with one. My brother had one, and my uncle had one that was a wagon, so I spent some of time learning to drive as a kid in them. We also had a Ford truck at that time that had the old 223 six banger. Pretty solid motor in the day, but again, darned little power. At least in the truck it had 4.11 gears to help it get moving !

All of which of course will mean little to the OP if she ever comes back ! I think we scared her away...
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