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Old 05-09-2015, 06:29 AM   #169
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Adding Tires

First F250
Thanks Mark, your's is our first Ford F250.

People always question trailer Tire choice. I've decided to add it as a category.

Tow Vehicle:
Engine:
TV tow ratings:
Trailer Brand and Size:
Trailer Weight:
Trailer Tongue Weight:
mpg towing:
mpg not towing:
towing speed:
Special Hardware:
Tire Size:
Tire Brand:


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Pkw/edit#gid=0
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Old 05-09-2015, 07:27 AM   #170
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The rest of our info is already in the spreadsheet. We're running Continental Vanco tires in the 215/70R15 size. They're a D range LT type tire.

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Old 05-09-2015, 08:15 AM   #171
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Please add to Jon Vermilye: Tires - ST205/75/15 Maxxis M8008 (D range)

Since some of the same size tires have different "ply" or load ratings, it might be good to add that to the description...
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Old 05-09-2015, 08:41 AM   #172
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Thank you Jon and John for the tire information, you too Norm....

Tire sizes numbers are followed by the load range... -D, -C, -B....

I am assuming radial tires unless otherwise mentioned.

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Old 05-09-2015, 05:34 PM   #173
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Just to add a bit of complexity, Norm, I run a 14" Kumho 857 in a 205R14C size for our spare. It's the same outside diameter and load rating as the Vanco 15" tires. Both the Kumho and the Continental Vanco tires are built to European commercial standards equivaltent to a D load range.

The whole story is on the blog at Just Finding Our Way: Another Tire Update
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Old 05-09-2015, 07:25 PM   #174
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Added Info John. Also I've frozen the title names for all columns. As you schroll down the titles always remain at the top.

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Old 05-11-2015, 10:35 AM   #175
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I'm line 27 in that spreadsheet.

Trailer tires
ST175/80R13 - Carlisle

Averaged 16mpg (american) @ 60mph over 600km this weekend.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:19 AM   #176
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Dale,

Thanks for the tire info

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Old 05-14-2015, 06:47 PM   #177
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Thanks for the tire info Mex Bob. The little list has had 10,000 hits and the more info we can add like tires will help others, Thanks again

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Old 05-14-2015, 07:09 PM   #178
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Norm, Ginny.....


I have tire info to add to my 4/26/15 post:


Carlisle 215-75 R 14, load range C


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Old 05-14-2015, 08:03 PM   #179
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Norm, I can now add some info on miles/gal for our set-up when towing. We just got back from a three week trip and averaged 13.6mpg with premium and 12.7 with regular. How did we decide whether to fill with regular or premium? We decided to run a test. Friends of ours who tow an Escape 19 always use premium, claiming the higher cost is offset by the better mpg. We calculated that if the spread in price is no more than 24 cents/gal, we come out ahead (or at least break even) by using premium. If the spread is more than 24 cents/gal, then we fill with regular. This trip took us over some really high passes (over 8,000 ft) and into parts of the country that are at high elevation (5,000 ft or more). I think we'd do better if a trip was mostly on flat terrain at lower elevations. Also we definitely saw better mpg when we drove two lane highways at 55 mph than freeways at 60-65 mph.

I don't have info on our non-towing mpg because we rarely use the truck except for towing. We just filled it up though so we may be able to get a mileage check before our next trip if we use the truck some.
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Old 05-15-2015, 05:16 AM   #180
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Frank, thanks for the tire information.

Kathy, We've never tried premium fuel in our Honda though it's suggested for towing. Usually there are three grades of fuel here. Are you buying the highest grade or the middle grade? I'll have to try it sometime. Thank you.

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Old 05-16-2015, 09:06 AM   #181
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Regular or Premium Gasoline?

Usually, changing to premium will not make a discernable difference. But towing, especially up grades, might be the exception. With computer controls in all vehicles now, that the driver has no control of, knock or ping are sensed by the computer and timing retarded before the driver notices. But timing retardation reduces both gas mileage and available engine power. So, towing, especially up grades will require more power, and if the engine is smaller and/or low compression, then require more retardation to prevent knock, thus lowering gas mileage also. So, in some cases premium gas, which prevents knock or ping more than regular, may allow the computer to retard in less cases, thus making for better gas mileage and more available power. (Note that although most of us have not heard knock or ping since we owned a 1980's vehicle, but often or sustained engine knock, or ping, even in a new vehicle, will usually result in internal engine damage)

2 important factors here: Gas Mileage, and Power. Is the difference in price worth the increase in gas mileage, and does the rig need more power to go up a grade. Either factor may be a reason for Premium gas. But usually premium is not needed.

YMMV--ha!
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Old 05-16-2015, 10:22 AM   #182
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Norm, here we often have just two grades of gas available, Regular (87 octane) and Premium (92 octane). When there are three grades, the mid-grade is 89 octane. We stuck with either the Regular or Premium grades so as to not add one more variable to our experiment. I too was skeptical that premium would make a difference, but the figures we got seem to bear out our friends' experience. Again I must emphasize that you need to do some calculating and pay attention to the price spread. If the premium is too much more than the regular, it doesn't make any difference in your fuel costs. Since we do most of our traveling in the West, where we always encounter high elevations and steep grades, premium makes sense for us as long as it's not more than 24 cents/gal higher than regular. As Donna says, YMMV!
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